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To: Jim Scott; Theophilus; HoustonCurmudgeon; LadyX; Freedom'sWorthIt; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Jim, now you've hit on what I said in the beginning of this discussion:
Predestination exists in God's world, but not in man's.
This is one of those abstract ideas for which we are not intellectually capable of fully understanding, like infinity or everlasting life or a universe without end.
The terrorists had a choice, but God knew what choice they were going to make; therefore, they had free will, but their decision has been sealed since the beginning of time.

So....are there certain people who are predestined in God's world to go to hell?
Of course! But in man's world they have a choice.

I think it would be unsupportable by the Holy Bible to say that God does not ever give permission for evil to manifest itself.
If that were the case, we wouldn't have needed Jesus in the first place.
Jesus is our Shield so that God can look upon us and see no evil. If there were no evil to see, we wouldn't need the Shield.

130 posted on 08/11/2002 11:16:51 PM PDT by COB1
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To: COB1
This is one of those abstract ideas for which we are not intellectually capable of fully understanding, like infinity or everlasting life or a universe without end. The terrorists had a choice, but God knew what choice they were going to make; therefore, they had free will, but their decision has been sealed since the beginning of time.

These are my thoughts, we have a choice, but God in His wisdom knows what will happen. See Presbyterians were right all along .... well except that pro abortion bunch! ;-)

134 posted on 08/12/2002 9:14:43 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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