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Massillon officer, suspect killed in chase, shootout
The Canton Repository (OHIO) ^ | Saturday, August 10, 2002 | LORI MONSEWICZ and ROBERT WANG Repository staff writers

Posted on 08/10/2002 6:07:37 AM PDT by ResistorSister

MASSILLON (OHIO) -- A city police officer and a man he was chasing are dead, killed in a shootout at the old Agathon ballfield Friday night.

Killed were Eric Taylor, 31, a four-year veteran of the Police Department, and a still unidentified suspect.

“This is a major tragedy for our city,” said Mayor Francis Cicchinelli, who announced Taylor’s death at Massillon Community Hospital at about 11:45 p.m.

Taylor was married, with three young children.

Investigators from the Ohio Highway Patrol, Massillon Police Department and Stark County coroner’s office remained at the scene past midnight, as did the body of the suspect, a balding, white man who was driving a four-door Ford sedan with Stark County license plates. His body was covered with one sheet, another blocked the view of the more than 100 bystanders who gathered near First Street and Cherry Road NW.

Massillon Patrol Officer Eric Taylor
Massillon Patrol Officer
Eric Taylor

The trouble began shortly before 8:30 p.m. on Route 21 and Edwards Road in Wayne County near Doylestown, according to Lt. Herb Homan, commander of the Wooster Post of the Highway Patrol.

One of his troopers had stopped the southbound Ford on Route 21 at 8:22 p.m. for speeding. The trooper talked with the driver, there was a confrontation and five minutes later, the trooper reported the car was fleeing. He chased it south, and Massillon police got involved.

The chase ended in Massillon east of Route 21, in the ballfield just south of Cherry Road.

The body of the suspect
The body of the suspect.

Lt. Gary Lewis of the Highway Patrol said the man got out of his car with a high-powered semiautomatic weapon, and that he fired first at officers. At least three Massillon officers and a trooper were involved in the gunfire. He said they don’t know which officer fired the shot that killed the suspect nor do they know which shot killed Taylor.

EVIDENCE. An investigator places evidence markers at the scene of a deadly shootout at First Street and Cherry Road NW in Massillon on Friday night.
EVIDENCE. An investigator places evidence markers at the scene
of a deadly shootout at First Street and Cherry Road NW
in Massillon on Friday night. Repository / Bob Rossiter

Scott McElfresh said he was watching television in his home on Cherry Road, northeast of the scene, when he heard shots. He looked out his window and saw flashes from gunfire.

He estimated he heard four shots and then an additional 30 to 40 shots, and that he saw flashes indicating police were returning fire.

“It’s not something you expect to happen in Massillon,” he said.

Other witnesses said they heard 10 to 12 shots.

“We didn’t know if it was fireworks or gunshots,” said Dave Hodgson, who was with friends about a block to the north.

Stark County Coroner James Pritchard said the suspect died of gunshot wounds, but he won’t know how many until he does an autopsy on the man today. He’ll also do an autopsy on Taylor.

Taylor was rushed from the scene to Massillon Community moments after the shooting.

The suspect’s body remained on the corner of a field off of First Street and Cherry Road until after midnight. Police said they had not verified the man’s identification, and they wouldn’t release his name until family was notified.

DEADLY SCENE. A Massillon police officer sits in stunned silence after a shootout that left Police Officer Eric Taylor and an unidentified suspect (on ground at left) dead from gunshot wounds Friday.
DEADLY SCENE. A Massillon police officer sits in
stunned silence after a shootout that left Police Officer Eric Taylor
and an unidentified suspect (on ground at left) dead from gunshot wounds Friday.

Through the early morning, Taylor’s cruiser and the suspect’s car remained in the middle of the field on which The Arena is being built.

The Highway Patrol and Massillon police are sharing the investigation.

They used 44 red cups to mark shell casings and other pieces of evidence on First Street. Bright lights illuminated the scene, showing the back window of a Massillon cruiser was shattered, and glass was scattered across the street.

A helicopter from Columbus was brought in to map the crime scene.

A handful of officers not involved in the investigation showed up at the scene, some in uniform and some in street clothes, somber and stone faced. Family of other officers showed up, patted a couple of officers on the back, shook their hands and hugged them.

A police chaplain met with the family at Massillon Community.

A red tent for officers was pitched in the yard of the Massillon Recreation Center, across the street from the crime scene.


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To: Willie Green
Now, now... be nice to ol' stinkspurt. He may be sadly misinformed on a lot of issues, but he doesn't intentionally lie.

Heh ... but he started it! ;)

I really don't mind his opinion; I just don't see why we need to get into a flamefest over such a minor side point only tangentally related to the main story. Whether the OHP pulls you over for going 1mph over the limit or 50mph, or even if they're writing you up for something you aren't even guilty of just because he happens to be a power-hungry jerk; you're still practically guaranteeing your own death if you pull a gun on a cop, especially after a high-speed chase (thought this moron apparently tried to pull his gun both before and after the chase). Just take the stupid ticket, and fight it via the system afterwards, if that's what you want to do. You'll probably win, you'll waste a ton of the trooper's time because he'll have to show up in court to give testimony, and then get to annoy him even more by showing his accusation against you was false. All without anyone getting a scratch on them.

161 posted on 08/10/2002 2:17:57 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: dirtboy
Well, if you love local government, why do you decry them when they exert their legal authority?

That's one reason I do tend to like local government more than non-local government. At least when the population levels aren't too high and the law enforcement guys personally know or are acquainted with the more eccentric individuals and know how to handle them. I saw a situation at the end of this dead-end road that ended well enough probably because the cops were using the guy's first name and obviously had dealt with him before but they didn't seem too inclined to make things worse.

162 posted on 08/10/2002 2:18:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Cultural Jihad; Admin Moderator
"He made me shoot him because he pulled me over! It was libertarian-inspired self-defense!"
126 CJ
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You're going over the line again with your anti-libertarian hate baiting.

- See Ad-Mod?-- Told ya.
163 posted on 08/10/2002 2:19:17 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: sinkspur
It seems to vary from county to county in Ohio. Allen County has to make a lot of money because you always see someone pulled over. They sit (hide) right down the street from me and laser those travelling on I75. It's nothing to see several cars pulled over every hour. I feel bad for some of those folks. I haven't had a ticket in a few years. I finally learned the ropes. I make my noises at the bar. Texas sounds like my kind of state!
164 posted on 08/10/2002 2:20:20 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: sinkspur
The rule in Texas is ten over on the weekends, fifteen during the week.

I tried to do 15 over on the Katy Freeway one morning going to work but the cars in front of me were doing about 65 under!!!!


Stay safe; stay armed.


165 posted on 08/10/2002 2:21:13 PM PDT by Eaker
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To: Jaidyn
I'm from Ohio, live with a retired sheriff, step-son is a detective, friends are city and county and Highway Patrol. Most are ok but the highway patrol in Ohio is arrogant and gungho when it comes to power...

Thanks for the information, Jaidyn!

166 posted on 08/10/2002 2:22:15 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dane
I was replying to another post. Of course, there is no excuse for what the creep did to the cop. None! The driver was either nuts or just an idiot. Whatever, he is dead, too, and lucky for travellers, can't hurt another person. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement officers. I live with one and among many and fear for them on a daily basis. I think I will just get out of here before I get shot.
167 posted on 08/10/2002 2:24:48 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Jaidyn
I in no way condone what the cop killer did. Where did you get that idea?

You talked about the Constitutionality of DUI stops, which, IMO, is really not relevant to the topic. If you meant that as general commentary rather than casting judgement upon the specifics of that story, then I apologize for drawing the wrong conclusions from your post...

168 posted on 08/10/2002 2:24:49 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; sourcery; Orual; aculeus; general_re; one_particular_harbour; BlueLancer; Poohbah
Show your driver's license to the cop. Be polite. If you have an issue with what the cop has determined, you get your day in court, and, from what I have seen in life, if you care enough to show up to contest the ticket, you've got a really good chance to get it thrown out. That is the rule of law. The rule of law is NOT, NOT, NOT served by driving away from a routine traffic stop because you think the states have no right to enforce traffic laws, the 10th Amendment be damned, and then precipitate a gunfight that leaves a cop dead.

Yep.

"Misprize common sense at your peril." -- Kingsley Amis.

169 posted on 08/10/2002 2:25:38 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dirtboy
I was generalizing and no need to apologize. Just say a prayer for a law officer who was downed for a frivolous reason if there was any reason at all.
170 posted on 08/10/2002 2:27:32 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Cultural Jihad; tpaine; Dane
As usual you lie. I disagreed when somebody claimed that traffic stops weren't a constitutional crisis. In other words, it was one of your cronies who claimed that traffic laws were in no way a violation of the constitution and no "constitutional crisis." You're also horribly un-informed about the common law right to travel freely and unmolested.

Until the automobile, there were no traffic laws and yet there was plenty of traffic. In most states the power of police are predicated on a signed affidafit by another citizen before you can be arrested.

A traffic stop is an arrest and some do believe that this is a suspension of the common law right of travel. I agree but have never said anything about any justification of this particular event. There isn't enough information to draw a conclusion one way or the other yet I notice that you and others like you are quick to condemn the civilian even though it isn't even clear whether or not it was he who inflicted the fatal wounds.

The Supreme Court has ruled that your right of self-defense indeed extends to the killing of cops who are acting outside their authority. If you have a beef, perhaps it is with the Supreme Court and the constitution itself. That does seem to be a pattern with you.

171 posted on 08/10/2002 2:27:53 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Timesink
I got swamped at my office by renters and come back and find the old thread zapped. I missed whatever you and several others replied to me.

I would repeat that I'm quite sorry for the cop, his family, and the shooter's wife. I see no justifiable reason at this juncture to shoot at LEOs over a speeding ticket regardless of whether one is a facist or a marxist or whatever in between.

This man was clearly quite troubled. If the media gets a sniff of this.....and they will....it is going to bring reams of hostile coverage to both RKBA and this forum. Many liberal media talking heads are quite aware of us already and this will simply fuel their derision further rightly or wrongly.

The AM was quite correct to pull the other thread if there were posters trying to justify this man's actions and if it starts up here again then they should do likewise. This forum is about a lot of good things and not about excusing shooting a local LEO with a family just for a damned speeding ticket.
172 posted on 08/10/2002 2:30:37 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Jaidyn
I was replying to another post. Of course, there is no excuse for what the creep did to the cop. None! The driver was either nuts or just an idiot. Whatever, he is dead, too, and lucky for travellers, can't hurt another person. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement officers. I live with one and among many and fear for them on a daily basis.I think I will just get out of here before I get shot.

Oh yeah you profess your outrage at the outrage, but then at the end you show your agenda.

Sheesh you shouldn't try to use Hillary like rhetoric on FR. If I were you I would ask Paul Begala for a refund on his telephone seminar of how to post on FR.

173 posted on 08/10/2002 2:31:13 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Timesink
I notice no one has mentioned the race angle. Let me be the first since I'm sure it will come up. Disturbed right winger kills black cop....no way that is going to get a pass.
174 posted on 08/10/2002 2:32:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Victoria Delsoul
The error was set at the very first moment when Matthews refused to show his drivers license. Once the chase took over and the police had him corned pointing guns at him Matthews knew that it was over for him. He had no chance in the Courts, I'm sure that any judge who took his case would've been more than happy to send him to jail.
I'm sorry about the outcome. This doesn't help second amendment advocates, and it doesn't help their cause. This is not the way to fight a battle.
May both souls rest in peace.
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Well said. -- Hot pursuit of obviously deranged individuals is not a winning strategy for cops, imo.
- A year or so ago, another hiway cop was killed in texas by a tax protesting weirdo, that everyone in the county was aware of. We had quite a thread discussing that one.
- Upshot? -- The cops should have handled the situation differently, from day one.
- There are lots of crazies out there, [FR is proof of that], -- and confronting them on the hiways is not a wise move.
175 posted on 08/10/2002 2:33:06 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: wardaddy
This man was clearly quite troubled.

This assumes that it wasn't the police who fired first or that he even inflicted the wound causing the police officer to die. I'd say that we don't have that information.

176 posted on 08/10/2002 2:33:41 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: wardaddy; Admin Moderator
This freeper was a strong constitutionalist,very pro 2A.None of us will ever know what went down or what caused the escalation of events.AM I suggest you pull the member in question profile least the media gets ahold of it.
177 posted on 08/10/2002 2:35:11 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: wardaddy
Absolutely! I've gotten more than my share of tickets and took my complaints to the judge who ordered me to pay the fines. Darn my luck! When I was young and kind of cute, I got warnings. I think the driver was a time bomb waiting to go off. If it weren't the policeman, it might have been anybody.
178 posted on 08/10/2002 2:35:28 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: wardaddy
I notice no one has mentioned the race angle.

That's because conservatives don't play the race card; only the leftist racists do that in order to pander to the very groups whose lives they've destroyed through 35+ years' worth of entitlements.

Let me be the first since I'm sure it will come up. Disturbed right winger kills black cop....no way that is going to get a pass.

I don't currently have the stomach to go look, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprise if the DUh squad has already latched onto this. Like Ann Coulter wrote, they'll say anything to slander conservatives, no matter how much of a lie it might be.

179 posted on 08/10/2002 2:36:23 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: one_particular_harbour
Oh, and in contrast, that post is brilliance?
180 posted on 08/10/2002 2:37:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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