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To: Phaedrus
Me: In the 20th century, Germany in both world wars was a Christian nation.

You:
Plain B.S., Patrick. Get your facts straight. Germany may have adopted certain of its forms but good Christians do not kill 6+ million people. Your argument is offensive, Patrick.

First, I made my statement about Germany is response to HV's claim that all the mass murder in the 20th century was done by atheists. That is an historical misstatement. I was not trying to defend the likes of Pol Pot, nor even to defend atheism. I wanted to set the historical record straight. I was not trying to condemn Christianity, or even Germany, but just to show that HV's hysterical claims about atheism are not correct. HV claims, and I clearly and unambiguously refuted, that atheism = communism, and all the big-time murder is by atheists. My refutation was in the form of pointing out that religious communists exist, and that there have been mass atrocities commited by religious people and nations.

Second, my facts are correct. The German nation were indeed Christians, and thought of themselves as such, and not atheists. (This is a generalization, but a true one.) You claim that "good" Christians don't behave like that. This is the third time this week I've had to point out that someone on your side of this debate is invoking the "No True Scotsman..." Fallacy.

Thirdly, you are offended way too easily.

374 posted on 08/13/2002 4:20:01 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
The German nation were indeed Christians ...

You continue the smear. Christian behavior is wholly inconsistent with what occurred in the death camps. When you can come up with evidence that the 10 Commandments were posted in those camps instead of "Work Makes Free" and Catholic priests sprinkling holy water over the mass graves and the cross instead of the swatstika as everywhere the Nazi symbol, you will be believed. Until that time, a smear is a smear is a smear.

The Nazis "justified" their anti-semitism as a Darwinian attempt to assist evolution in the purification of the "Aryan" race. This ain't Christian, Patrick.

538 posted on 08/14/2002 6:46:41 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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