[gore3000]

HV wants to concentrate on the materialistic end of it - I choose to pay attention to the dialectics of it.

Well we were talking about materialism were we not? Also, the process does not mean the result is the same, in fact your 'reasoning' in the rest of your post is pure nonsense, and the worst of it is that you think it is quite profound.

[general_re]

...in fact your 'reasoning' in the rest of your post is pure nonsense, and the worst of it is that you think it is quite profound.

Take it up with HV - I have, as I said, merely expropriated the argument.