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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
The quote that Walt referenced is from a speech by Alexander Stephens given in November 1860 to the Georgia Legislature. It was a rebuttle to a speech given the previous day by Robert Toombs. The quote in context goes:

"The next evil that my friend complained of, was the Tariff. Well, let us look at that for a moment. About the time I commenced noticing public matters, this question was agitating the country almost as fearfully as the Slave question now is. In 1832, when I was in college, South Carolina was ready to nullify or secede from the Union on this account. And what have we seen? The tariff no longer distracts the public councils. Reason has triumphed. The present tariff was voted for by Massachusetts and South Carolina. The lion and the lamb lay down together-- every man in the Senate and House from Massachusetts and South Carolina, I think, voted for it, as did my honorable friend himself. And if it be true, to use the figure of speech of my honorable friend, that every man in the North, that works in iron and brass and wood, has his muscle strengthened by the protection of the government, that stimulant was given by his vote, and I believe every other Southern man. So we ought not to complain of that... Massachusetts, with unanimity, voted with the South to lessen them, and they were made just as low as Southern men asked them to be, and those are the rates they are now at. If reason and argument, with experience, produced such changes in the sentiments of Massachusetts from 1832 to 1857, on the subject of the tariff, may not like changes be effected there by the same means, reason and argument, and appeals to patriotism on the present vexed question?"

371 posted on 08/16/2002 1:47:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Ah! That makes sense. Thanks!
374 posted on 08/16/2002 2:17:04 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Non-Sequitur
The present tariff was voted for by Massachusetts and South Carolina

Only one problem - that "present tariff" was being replaced by a protectionist yankee one at that very moment. Stephens, a unionist at the time, probably hoped for the tariff's defeat and clearly references that Toombs, a secessionist, complaining it was being pushed by the yankees.

386 posted on 08/16/2002 3:08:04 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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