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To: RCW2001
I think I get this guy's main stick to use against the House of Saud;

In frame 20 the author's points are;
-The House of Saud was given dominion over Arabia in 1922 by the British.
-It wrested the Guardianship of the Holy Places -- Mecca and Medina -- from the Hashemite dynasty.
-There is an "Arabia," but it needs not be "Saudi"

In frame 22 the author states;
—The Holy Places: let it be known that alternatives are being canvassed.

In frame 23 the author states;
-The Hashemites have greater legitimacy as Guardians of Mecca and Medina.

Besides the obvious threat to take Saudi oil and money this
guy wants to place the King of Jordan (Head Hashemite) in charge of Arabia and it's Holy places. It is the Saudi Princes' stewardship of the holy places that gives them legitimacy in the Muslim world.

There were rumors that we were talking to Jordan about something. It was variously reported that we might be trying to use Jordan as a base for the attack of Iraq. Could it be that Jordan has been approached regarding Arabia?




21 posted on 08/08/2002 7:36:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
Very astute points...

I found them especially interesting after reading this headline.

Jordan Prince Said To Seek Iraqi Throne The Forward ^

Posted on 08/08/2002 9:00 PM Eastern by RCW2001

Jordan Prince Said To Seek Iraqi Throne Meets With Wolfowitz By MARC PERELMAN FORWARD STAFF

PARIS — Former crown prince Hassan of Jordan is not on the guest list of a high-level meeting between the main Iraqi opposition groups and American officials scheduled for Friday in Washington. Nevertheless, he is bound to loom large as participants grapple with the all-important question of who runs post-Saddam Baghdad. Rumors are rife that the 55-year-old Hassan is angling to become king of Iraq.

Hassan, whose Hashemite family ruled Iraq until his great-uncle Feisal II was overthrown in 1958, caused a stir last month when he unexpectedly appeared at a meeting of Saddam Hussein foes in London. Hassan himself was crown prince of Jordan for 34 years, but was pushed aside when his brother King Hussein named a son, Abdullah, to succeed him.

Although he claimed he had come to London merely to express solidarity, Hassan's name has been bandied around for a series of United Nations postings since he was pushed aside from the Jordanian throne, fueling speculation that he was looking for a "job," if not a crown.

Several observers said some Bush administration officials are indeed rooting for Hassan at a time when Washington is struggling to find a consensus leader to succeed Saddam. After the London meeting, the London-based Guardian newspaper reported that Hassan had the backing of Pentagon hawks and that he met in April in Washington with one of their most prominent figures, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz.

"There is more to his presence in London than meets the eye," an American expert on Iraq said. "Some people might be thinking that a Hashemite ruler might be a good compromise between the Shi'ite and the Sunni" Muslim factions because the Hashemite family is believed to be descended from both prophet Muhammad and his son-in-law Ali, the latter a seminal figure in the Shi'ite faith.

A well-placed intelligence source told the Forward that "some Defense Department people are pushing for it, but it is totally unrealistic."

A Pentagon spokesman, Lieu-tenant Colonel David Lapan, said the department did not want to comment on the speculation surrounding Hassan, adding that he was not invited to Washington for this week's consultations on the future of Iraq.

Other observers dismissed the Hashemite scenario and said Hassan's intention was to embarrass Abdullah by lending Jordanian support to the American regime-change policy in Iraq. They noted that Hassan's move came just as American press reports said Jordanian bases might be used in an American military operation against Iraq, prompting strong denials from Amman.

After the London meeting, Abdullah blasted his uncle, claiming "he had blundered into something he did not realize he was getting into and we're all picking up the pieces," according to the official Jordanian Petra press agency.

"I believe the king does not want this," the intelligence source said. "He is already preoccupied enough with his own survival."

But others disagreed, arguing that Abdullah's denial of the reports of Jordan's cooperation in military preparations and his criticism of Hassan's presence in London could well be a way for him to stave off the inevitable criticism he would face at home. There, public opinion is already enraged by America's unwavering support of Israel since the outbreak of the intifada. The majority of Jordanian citizens are of Palestinian descent.

Some point to the close relationship between Hassan and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi as an explanation for his presence in London. After Chalabi was indicted in Jordan for a bank fraud in the 1980s, Hassan helped him get out of jail. Chalabi invited Hassan to London, several sources said.

But Hassan's presence did not go down well with some key Iraqi opposition leaders.

"Jordan said it was a mistake and we have to stick to this explanation," said Hamid al-Bayati, the London representative of the Iran-based Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the main Shi'ite opposition group. "Iraq has enough candidates to succeed Hussein. We don't need a foreigner and our new constitution will ensure it."

Al-Bayati will attend the August 9 meeting in Washington with Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith. Also invited are the two main Kurdish groups, the Iraqi National Accord and the constitutional monarchy movement.

Although they said they want to offer a united stance to the administration, disagreements among the opposition groups are obvious. The Iraqi National Congress, created in 1992 as the main umbrella group and funded by Washington for a decade, has not been able to knit them together.

23 posted on 08/08/2002 7:45:14 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Mike Darancette
The Palis want a homeland. Palis are basically Jordanian. Let the Palis have Saudi.
27 posted on 08/08/2002 8:54:52 PM PDT by willyone
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To: Mike Darancette
Excellent analysis. Jordan and Turkey are hurting, and allowing them both a little expansionism (under a peacekeeping flag) can help them both. None of this is totally clear or easy - the Turks and Kurds don't mix too well, for example - but it makes sense.
35 posted on 08/09/2002 6:11:28 AM PDT by eno_
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