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To: churchillbuff
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Congressman Thomas, Surely, you can’t be that stupid. I mean, even for the standards of the current Republican Party, which has turned from the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt into a hateful, dogmatic and uncompromising group (except in the case of big business, when you become the party of Stepin Fetchit), your comments on CNN are so completely out of line, they defy logic. To blame Bill Clinton (our last legally elected president) for the current corporate shenanigans completely flies in the face of truth and logic. The president you and your ilk impeached for lying about oral sex presided over a country that lowered teen pregnancy rates 22 percent, dropped the crime rate by roughly the same amount and knocked nearly half the welfare recipients off the rolls. While those numbers were dropping, so were the numbers in divorce, teen drinking, teen suicide and abortion. But that doesn’t jibe with your partisan rantings. Everything’s Clinton’s fault, from your faulty perceptions about this country’s moral laxity to the state of the military — which was cut to pieces by George Bush I and his secretary of defense — Dick Cheney. Without a scintilla of regret or moral thought, your party has embraced corporate crooks, polluters and other moral rot. It wasn’t Bill Clinton who cooked books at Enron, Global Crossing, Worldcom and who knows how many other companies. It wasn’t Bill Clinton who engaged in accounting fraud while working as the CEO of a Fortune 500 company (see Cheney, Dick). It wasn’t Bill Clinton who engaged in insider trading while leading yet another company into bankruptcy (see Bush, G.W.). It was Bill Clinton who lied about a blow job. Somehow, I don’t see the comparison. Then again, I’m not a morally bankrupt Republican congressman who opts for partisanship ahead of truth. Respectfully yours, Brian Robin Lancaster, CA

2 posted on 08/08/2002 1:41:43 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
He should have been fired for defendeing the 'toon.
4 posted on 08/08/2002 1:46:32 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: churchillbuff
"It's like using a bazooka on a butterfly." Strike "butterfly" and insert "whining liberal worm."
5 posted on 08/08/2002 1:48:00 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: churchillbuff
I visit a gaming forum regularly and I ALWAYS have to laugh when I see someone post a message like this. But I'm never surprised when a 16 year-old kid says "but but - I know it was against the rules but c'mon - I have a clean record" you just have to shake your head and hope they learned a lesson. Adults should know better.
6 posted on 08/08/2002 1:48:52 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: churchillbuff
What crud! This reporter, reporting on the reporter admits that the formal policy is that there is no personal email....yet "everybody does it, don't they?" So it should be ok. And he shouldn't be fired for something that small.

So if the guy writes a libelous article, on the paper's letterhead, and publishes it, then the paper is not responsible, right? The paper -IS- the employees!!! What they do affects the whole company, and all the other people that have mouths to feed!!

What an idiot.
9 posted on 08/08/2002 1:52:04 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: churchillbuff
. It wasn’t Bill Clinton who cooked books at Enron, Global Crossing, Worldcom and who knows how many other companies. It wasn’t Bill Clinton who engaged in accounting fraud while working as the CEO of a Fortune 500 company (see Cheney, Dick).

No it wasn't...but it was Bill Clinton's Commerce Dept that cooked the books for 2 years that we know about. Grossly overstating the health of the economy for 1999 and 2000 (a presidential election year coincidentally). It was Bill Clinton's ex Treasury Secretary who helped arrange highly questionable and probably illegal loans to Enron from Citibank, and that same former official, (see Rubin, Robert) who made telephone calls to the White House and the Treasury Dept urging government officials to lean on rating institutions to avoid downgrading Enron's credit ratings, at a time when it was sliding 100 miles an hour into bankruptcy, a move that is grossly improper and should be illegal.

Now we need to look at all of those scores of incredibably great days that the Dow had EVERY time Clinton faced a new scandal, allegation or testimony. Bad news for the clintons ALWAYS coincided with a booming day on Wall Street. I wonder what Rubin and his pals had to do with that.

10 posted on 08/08/2002 1:52:35 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: churchillbuff
Brainfart is an understatement.

This guy is even too dense for the sportspage.

22 posted on 08/08/2002 1:58:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: churchillbuff
The letter is a "walking cliche"...he only left out that we throw granny out of her house with not even a can of cat food for herself.

The guy is immature and STUPID....THAT'S why EVEN the LA Times had to fire him.

23 posted on 08/08/2002 1:59:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: churchillbuff
Read's to me like he got a wild hair , took a liberty with private property ; and now can not seem to take the heat . Oh yes .. he also mentioned his family . Now the traditional liberal spew is forthcoming .

Mr. Robin ? Turn of CNN and try this site for a week or 2 instead of that swill site you like so much . Goodness man , you write about people who wear jock straps and grown men who burp and fart in public .

Gosh .. 'Ya think you were so damn difficult to replace ?

27 posted on 08/08/2002 2:09:02 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: churchillbuff; dighton; Orual; general_re
The LA Weekly calls it a 'critical' letter instead of the lying smear job that it was. (Incidentally did they publish the letter? If not, how did you get it?)

Congrats to The Times for firing this loutish boob.
30 posted on 08/08/2002 2:10:51 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: churchillbuff
I'm not sure where I read this, but it's a good one to remember. "Wrong is wrong even if everyone does it. Right is right even if no one does it."

'Everyone does it' doesn't work anymore.
35 posted on 08/08/2002 2:18:38 PM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: churchillbuff
lessee now, Bush received the Electoral College vote.  If he is complaining that Bush didn't receive the popular vote, well then, neither did Clinton.  In fact, Clinton never did as well in the popular vote as did Bush.

I seem to recall (amongst other things) Clinton, big business and the Chinese connection.

The fact that Clinton perjured himself indicates that you can't take his word on anything.

The lowered teen pregnancy rates were due more to the policies enacted during the Reagan-Bush era ("just say no") than they were due to anything Clinton did.  In fact, oral sex skyrocketed during his tenure.  I wonder why.

It has been shown that convicted felons are responsible for 80% of all crimes.  With this in view, many states instituted policies of keeping convicted felons off of the street well before Clinton became president.  Thus the lowered crime rate had little to do with him.  In fact, anecdotal evidence suggests that if Clinton wasn't president, the crime rate would have been significantly lower.

Clinton fought against welfare reform, and only supported it reluctantly when it was forced on him by a Republican congress.

It certainly may have not been Clinton who cooked the books at Enron, Worldcom, and others, but it certainly happened on his watch while he gladly took money from them.

Sure Bush jr. did insider trading.  The SEC has cleared him on this one.  The stock of Harkin actually went up shortly after he sold.  Now, let's talk about Hillary and her 10,000% profit in a few months on the commodities exchange when she was a mere novice.  Talk about unbelievable.

I never heard of Bush or even Nixon starting a war for mere selfish reasons.

Yes, I don't see the comparision between Clinton and Bush.  For every dubious assertion you can make against Bush, I can throw literally hundreds of firm allegations against Clinton.  Thank heavens we are through with the 8 almost continously scandal-scarred years that passed for the Clinton presidency.
38 posted on 08/08/2002 2:21:20 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: churchillbuff
Here's the outrageous part.

The Los Angeles Times employs people like this throughout their pressroom.

Like other media pimps, they have one mission in life: to elect Democrats. It's what they do best.

So some little twerp got fired. So what. He'll end up working on some San Francisco paper. It doesn't change the fact of left wing control of the media one bit.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

45 posted on 08/08/2002 2:32:29 PM PDT by section9
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