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To: Icthus
To summarize the points of contention, as they are discussed on Creation/Evolution threads here: two separate points are discussed, and some people insist on very sharp distinction, that we should not mix them together.

1. Origin of life and ultimately origin of the Universe: creation by G-d versus natural (no G-d involved). This is a clearly argument between believers and non-believers.

2. Once the life exist, the evolution of it. A number of believers insist that there is no contradiction between their faith in G-d creating the beginning of life, and their acceptance of the science of life developing: Evolution. So this argument is between Evolutionists (including believers and non-believers) versus creationists who don't accept evolution.

From an archaeological standpoint, the Bible has been shown to be accurate time and again, rarely is it questioned from a historical context.

Many events in Bible looks like did happen some time in history. You don't need to be a believer to have a high regard to Bible as a historical document.

Yet science, by its very nature, cannot accept something as fact unless it can be proven true (which is where the beef with the Evo's comes in) .

Science attempts to answer a question using all available data and probabilities. Faith doesn't necessarily require that I know the answer....just that I believe it is correct.

Yes. I absolutely agree. We differ in approach. I have a deep respect to believers and their faith. But I use science to explain the universe. I don't think science needs to revert to concept of G-d every time when it encounters an unexplainable. Honest "I don't know" is quite acceptable to me. There are countless examples of things that were absolutely unexplainable at previous levels of knowledge, had a "divine" explanation at that time, and received a scientific explanation later on.

20 posted on 08/08/2002 10:03:54 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik
"..There are countless examples of things that were absolutely unexplainable at previous levels of knowledge, had a "divine" explanation at that time, and received a scientific explanation later on.."

I completely agree with you. As science discovers more and more about the unsolved matters in our world, it generally creates a sense among humans of a reliance upon our selves. "We" can control our world. We then tend to view God in a trivial manner, as an ancient myth alongside Neptune and countless others. This is easier to do in part, because of the spirit of the age in which we are now living in. Post Modernism, there are no moral absolutes. Truth has been boiled down to whatever is right for you....may not be right for me.

Sorry for getting off on a separate tangent.....it's something I sometimes become passionate about. Back to your initial comment....IMO, science routinely reaffirms my belief and strengthens my faith. Not necessarily in what it cannot yet answer, but in what it has already been able to answer.

21 posted on 08/08/2002 10:45:33 AM PDT by Icthus
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