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Transgender Law Making Strides
FoxNews.com ^ | August 06, 2002 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 08/07/2002 9:09:16 AM PDT by gubamyster

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: ArGee
It is hard for her as she has a mouth full of worms.
121 posted on 08/09/2002 9:20:46 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: ArGee
I don't believe a person is the sum of his parts, I believe a person is a complete whole.

That is where you are mistaken, those two statements mean the same thing.

And people may be debating issues so they can rationalize their sin, but G-d has not been debating them.

Are you afraid to type the word 'God' for some reason?

Also before you can understand what is sinning and what is not, you first have to know where the Bible actually comes from and what it is.

Originally it not was commissioned to be made by God, but by a Roman Emperor in 300 or 400 AD.

Second is that over the past 1200 years the Bible has been interpreted, added to and reinterpreted to the point where the King James version (the first English translation of the Bible) of the Bible is actually MORE interpretation than documentation.

This is NOT an opinion, it is an actual historic fact that can be proved beyond a shawdow of a doubt.

I do not want to get into a religious debate with you on this subject.

But if you chose to start posting quotes from the Bible. I will personally point out to you which parts of the quotes are interpretation and which parts are documentation.

And be warned, you might be shocked and angered by the facts.

It is interesting that when I tell you I know of people who have been cured from gender identification problems you decide to stand on your obviously incomplete information rather than continue to discuss the issue

I am reminding you that you are the one here who refuses to share their evidence. Not me.

122 posted on 08/09/2002 9:37:00 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Also before you can understand what is sinning and what is not, you first have to know where the Bible actually comes from and what it is.

Originally it not was commissioned to be made by God, but by a Roman Emperor in 300 or 400 AD.

Second is that over the past 1200 years the Bible has been interpreted, added to and reinterpreted to the point where the King James version (the first English translation of the Bible) of the Bible is actually MORE interpretation than documentation.

Sir, I don't wish to debate this with you either. I have been studying the Bible for a long time, both where it came from and what is in it, but all that kind of discussion will lead to is what is commonly called a p***** match from which neither you nor I would profit.

You obviously are deficient in your study methods. In the case of both religion and sexual perversion you look until you find out what you want to know and then you close your mind.

That's your business, but I wouldn't like to live that way.

Shalom.

123 posted on 08/09/2002 9:54:16 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Good, because like I said before, I have nothing left to discuss with you either.
124 posted on 08/09/2002 10:01:44 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Khepera; JMJ333; EODGUY; Dakmar
I attended a church one time where the Pastor kept claiming things that were obviously untrue. I don't want to start a theological ground war here, but I will share one horrible example. For two years he would regularly claim that they were going to pray over one of their members who was diagnosed with cancer until she was healed, and that he was not going to let The Devil take her. When she died she was suddenly a non-entity.

When discussing this with my children I gave them some words that I would like to share with you all and others on this thread. When your theology finds itself in conflict with reality, rethink your theology. G-d is real and will always conform to reality.

There are a lot of people out there who want to tell us that people can't change their sexual "orientation" or resolve gender identity confusion. The fact that there are lots of people who have successfully changed their "orientation" and resolved their confusion should cause anyone to rethink this position.

When it doesn't, what else is there to do?

Shalom.

125 posted on 08/09/2002 10:17:29 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"And be warned, you may be shocked and angered by the facts."

BWAHAHAHA!!! Beauty!!

Most posters on this site are less naive than you. Folks may be shocked or angered THAT a particular 'fact' is posted; few are so foolish as to have such a response TO the fact itself.

Present company excepted, of course.
126 posted on 08/09/2002 10:27:39 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: EODGUY
We may have a lift problem, but hey, have you ever seen a 747? Who would believe that baby could fly?

That shouldn't be a problem. Just do what Boeing did: get four engines, each producing 50,000 pounds of thrust, and you'll be good to go.

127 posted on 08/09/2002 11:23:14 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: ArGee
HEAR HEAR!!
128 posted on 08/09/2002 11:44:06 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Steve0113
"That shouldn't be a problem. Just do what Boeing did: get four engines, each producing 50,000 pounds of thrust, and you'll be good to go."

Do you know if Walmart carries them or are they pretty much a "special order item"?

:)


129 posted on 08/09/2002 5:28:29 PM PDT by EODGUY
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To: Khepera
I think the sculptor's rendition was extremely kind to Ms. Waters, don't you?

Braad to the Bone
130 posted on 08/09/2002 5:33:03 PM PDT by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
Yes especially around the mouth.
131 posted on 08/09/2002 6:12:35 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
ROFLMAO!
132 posted on 08/09/2002 6:31:11 PM PDT by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
Dang she's got purty lips!
133 posted on 08/09/2002 7:08:37 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: headsonpikes
Multiple quotes, multiple facts, a fact about each quote.

Therefore, I used correct grammar in using the plural form of the word fact, facts.

If I was as rude as you, I would be laughing at YOUR mistake.

134 posted on 08/10/2002 5:45:58 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
I wasn't critiquing your grammar; I was mocking your pretentious and smarmy naivete.

If you want to take insult, at least pay attention.

"Your mother dresses you funny." That's an insult; try taking notes.
135 posted on 08/11/2002 10:18:32 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
I wasn't critiquing your grammar; I was mocking your pretentious and smarmy naivete.

You just admitted to flaming me.

Maybe I should use the abuse button.

But that all depends on what you do next. Continue flaming me and I will.

136 posted on 08/11/2002 10:30:51 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"But that all depends on what you do next."

I shall studiously ignore you. I hope that meets with your approval.

If not, bite me.
137 posted on 08/11/2002 11:24:28 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Paul C. Jesup
On second thought, considering your predilections, I wish to point out that "Bite me' is metaphorical.
138 posted on 08/11/2002 11:28:07 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
If not, bite me.

No way, I don't want to get rabies.

And my comment was metaphorical.

139 posted on 08/11/2002 1:41:33 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Khepera
Reminds me of the line from "Deliverance", but even those good ole boys wouldn't find Maxine appealing.
140 posted on 08/11/2002 7:04:03 PM PDT by EODGUY
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