[RichardW]

I think the problem with all of these semi-autos is that there is a round left in the chamber after the magazine is removed, unless all of the rounds are used up. If a person forgets to set the safety you can have an accident and frankly I wouldn't trust the safety anyway. What I do is to set the safety, remove the magazine and shake or pry the round out of the chamber before I put it away.

The problem with the "unloaded" gun has always been a problem. In the old West, smart cowboys always traveled with an empty chamber in the firing position on their six shooters.

If it were possible to make it impossible to shoot the semi-autos without the magazine in place I suppose that would be a very good idea but I still don't trust any of these ideas fully. The only safe weapon is a gun without a round in the chamber.

[supercat]

The problem with the "unloaded" gun has always been a problem. In the old West, smart cowboys always traveled with an empty chamber in the firing position on their six shooters.

That's because early revolvers were not otherwise drop-safe. Any live round under the hammer would be fired if the hammer was struck. NAA's mini-revolver has a very elegant solution to this problem; I'm surprised I've not heard of it elsewhere (they allow the cylinder to be parked halfway between rounds).

[School of Rational Thought]

"I think the problem with all of these semi-autos is that there is a round left in the chamber after the magazine is removed, unless all of the rounds are used up"

Don't these people know to always treat a gun as if it is loaded?

[Kozak]

I think the problem with all of these semi-autos is that there is a round left in the chamber after the magazine is removed, unless all of the rounds are used up

It should be a given that when you remove the magazine you check the chamber. It should also be a given that any time you pick up the weapon, you assume it's loaded, and you check the chamber. Takes a second.