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Posted on 08/06/2002 5:50:43 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Bobby777
And FReegards to you from a wine-drinking Episcopalian (or Whiskeypalian as we are sometimes known).
* I hasten to add that I have nothing to do with some of the more idiotic pronouncements of our House of Bishops, if any of them. (I'm still not reconciled to the new prayer book.)
;-)
To: chance33_98
To: Bobby777
yes. new wine was unfermented, obviously that's how it breaks old wineskins (after it ferments and expands) ... For real? I never understood what Jesus said about the new wine bursting the old wineskins.
Thank you!
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posted on
08/06/2002 7:57:34 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: Dakmar
To: swarthyguy
Not since I was young and drank it with lutefisk and green bean casserole.
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posted on
08/06/2002 7:58:02 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: AnAmericanMother
yep, I'm not a tee-totaler but I've never been drunk ... (close a couple times in my early 20's) ... never had a strong desire for it ...
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posted on
08/06/2002 8:00:22 PM PDT
by
Bobby777
To: Dakmar
I won't tell you how i know what lutefisk is, but there was a beer from Norway called GreyWolf that a specialty store carried for a while. Good laager type (or is that pilsner).
To: Jorge
yes, of course He was speaking of how they were having a hard time believing the Messiah had arrived, that He had to die for their (and our) sins ... i.e., the Gospel and the fact that Gentiles could be Saved ... I believe they tied up the wineskins and the expanding CO2 on an old, dried-out wineskin would cause it to burst ... as always, He used the parables to explain a complex Truth ...
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posted on
08/06/2002 8:03:57 PM PDT
by
Bobby777
To: Dakmar
Last one. I'll stop now.
To: mykej
I don't have a problem believing Jesus could be without sin and still have an alcoholic beverage now and then. Why do so many people seem to think this? Because there are those within the Christian community who point at a bottle of wine and say "evil, evil, evil." I grew up in the church and have seen the destructive tendencies that alcohol can have in a persons life - but it is NOT inherently evil and the Bible doesn't teach that it is. The only way you can conlude that Jesus didn't drink fermented wine is if you make the Bible say something it doesn't. It is easier to prove the possibility of him drinking wine than than any other view on the subject.
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posted on
08/06/2002 8:05:17 PM PDT
by
Frapster
To: chance33_98
To: swarthyguy
Here's a nice Norwegian beer not many Americans would drink:
92
posted on
08/06/2002 8:11:05 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
NEWS ARTICLE DEFEACED. JEADLINE CHANGED TO GET MORE HITS.
To: KneelBeforeZod
err. make that HEADLINE defaced.
To: Dakmar
LOL! Had any Aass lately, dude?
It could find a niche market in say, SanFran and then crack the market wide open.
To: chance33_98
bump
96
posted on
08/06/2002 8:18:30 PM PDT
by
mafree
To: KneelBeforeZod
What headline
To: swarthyguy
You must be in marketing :)
98
posted on
08/06/2002 8:22:26 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Bobby777
yes, of course He was speaking of how they were having a hard time believing the Messiah had arrived, that He had to die for their (and our) sins ... i.e., the Gospel and the fact that Gentiles could be Saved ... I believe they tied up the wineskins and the expanding CO2 on an old, dried-out wineskin would cause it to burst ... as always, He used the parables to explain a complex Truth ... Ok, so let me see if I get this.
Maybe Jesus was telling them that they wouldn't be able to grasp the Gospel message and new life Jesus offered (the new wine) with their old ways of thinking and old religious concepts about God.(old wine skins )
That they needed a renewed faith and new understanding of God to go along with the new Gospel message.?
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posted on
08/06/2002 8:23:52 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: Dinsdale
In those days, the days of Jesus, there was no refigeration, hence, the fermentation of the fruit of the grape was up to nature.
If the juice of the grape was young, meaning that it was just from the vine and had not set for any length of time, it would have been lightly fermented. It would have been a drink with little, but some, alcohol. If, on the other hand, it would have been allowed to set and ferment for a longer period of time, it would have been more potent (in alcoholic content).
The wine, in those days, had an amount of alcohloic content. Some less, some more. The people of that time knew this, and the beverages were considered a gift, and they cherished the taste and the experience of the wine. They considered it a gift from God and it was coveted as riches for the common man.
Note: all wine has a certain amount of alcohol, that is a biochemical fact. How you treat that wine, preserve it, let it brew, etc. is the factor in the alcoholic content of the wine.
Try this: pick grapes, smash the juice out of those grapes, let the juice and the fruit set of one day. Then drain off only the juice and let it set for another 4 days. Then drink it. You will get a buzz. Why? The sugar and juice are in the grape, the yeast (in the form of yeast spores) grow on the skin of the grape. God's perfect booze! All you have to do is follow the instructions. "Pick, stomp, wait, contain, and wait again"! Direct to you from that little old wine maker....God!
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