PUERTO RICO: Illegal immigration from D.R. culture clash

The San Juan Star | Monday, August 5, 2002 | NANCY SAN MARTIN

[4Freedom]

Everything you say about the illegal Dominicans coming through Puerto Rico to the United States and lingering only long enough to pick up their phoney paperwork is all true.

I guess we can see why now. "...punishing them more severely and even barring them from eating in the cafeteria or drinking from the water fountain 'because they might get them dirty,' said Pedro Ruiz, director of San Juan's municipal Office of Immigrant Services and Civil Rights."

Did Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton address this situation when they were in Vieques?

The only fact I believe you're mistaken on is this. "They also vote Democrat - somewhere around 85%."

I believe the Dominicans vote Democrat almost double that - somewhere around 155%, now.

LOL!

[4Freedom]

The gist of what I gather from the article is that the Puerto Ricans believe that Dominicans are darker-skinned (on average), have a different accent, aren't as smart and are "dirty".

I believe their music sounds different, too. That's an easy way to get in trouble in Puerto Rico. Play music they don't like louder than they play theirs.

Well, maybe that's not so easy. Everybody can't afford speakers that big. ;^)

[PJ-Comix]

That's an easy way to get in trouble in Puerto Rico. Play music they don't like louder than they play theirs.

That's pretty much impossible. There is no way to play music louder than PR music.

[Twodees]

"We are doing what we can to address the needs," said Mariana Binet Mieses, director of the Department of State's office of Orientation and Services for Foreign Citizens. "The biggest problem is that most of the immigrants are not documented," making it difficult to enroll them in government funded programs.

So, enrolling illegals in government funded programs is the purpose of the state dept. That office at State should be shut down and the public tit addict quoted here tossed out on her worthless ass along with her bosses. Anyone not documented is not an immigrant, but an invader. We're doomed if this crap isn't brought to a halt very soon.

[Twodees]

This is getting complicated.

Yeah. Wait until a black hispanic lesbian female disabled pregnant military veteran civil servant comes up for promotion. Nobody else will have a chance of being considered. ;-)

[not-alone]

Fed. Judge is making it easier. No longer requires proof of U.S. citizenship to leave the Virgin Islands.They can take 1/2 hour flight to VI and then to mainland.

[hellinahandcart]

How can Puerto Ricans even tell who the Dominicans even are?

Oh, they can tell. I had the same questions about fifteen years ago, when I worked alongside two Puerto Rican girls who were constantly slamming Dominicans.

Their ethnic backgrounds are almost identical and they both speak Spanish. I don't understand this.

I moved to NY from Ohio, and I was truly puzzled by this. Gee, two Spanish-speaking islands in the Carribean, what's the diff? So I asked, and brother did they answer. They can tell the difference by accent, by appearance, by education level, by the living conditions they find acceptable, by everything. Including the names Dominicans give their children, which I am told are usually "made-up" names similar to some of the names inner-city black kids are saddled with here. They rattled off about a dozen "names" as examples and laughed until they were helpless (I don't speak a lot of Spanish so I didn't quite get the joke).

In other words, Puerto Ricans think Dominicans are irredeemable hicks.

There was a Colombian girl working there who told me that every other country in South America looked down on PR and DR and didn't see much difference between the two. But by then I had gathered that Colombians considered themselves "pure Spanish" and looked down on just about everybody else, so I took that with a grain of salt. What it really told me is that there definitely is a caste system of sorts down there, if unofficial.

[4Freedom]

"There is no way to play music louder than PR music"

The Dominicans have taken up the challenge.

Puerto Rican seismologists record an average 2.5 earthquakes in Puerto Rico everyday.

I'll bet it's the car stereos!

[4Freedom]

What about the families and social workers that hide pregnant women from the INS until they can give birth?

[4Freedom]

What's with these 'pure Spanish blood' nazis?

[4Freedom]

"Fed. Judge... No longer requires proof of U.S. citizenship to leave Virgin Islands."

Looks like they want some of that Far Eastern, illegal immigrant trade that Puerto Rico's been getting.

[FITZ]

So, enrolling illegals in government funded programs is the purpose of the state dept.

That's the main purpose of amnesty. There's not much stopping illegals from taking any job they want, it's those welfare benefits that are a little less attainable without legal residency.

[FITZ]

Even the homeless will say that being in the streets is better than being Dominican

It's sad that not one Hispanic country is doing well ---and it doesn't matter if they're white, brown, or black so it seems to have nothing to do with race but that culture. They can only succeed if they make it to an Anglo country. At some point you'd think they'd want to change some things in their homelands and make them a bit more liveable.

[4Freedom]

On the contrary, they want to come here and continue doing what didn't work for them in their home countries.

At our expense of course.

[wtc911]

Any New Yorker can tell the difference between a Puerto Rican or a Dominican....or a Greek and an Italian....or an Irishman and an Englishman....or a Korean and a Chinese...in most cases there are as many differences as similarities.

[Twodees]

It's probably past time we got rid of the Kennedy law which grants citizenship to anyone born here. Better yet, we need to rescind the illegally enacted, unratified 14th amendment.

[Twodees]

That's the main purpose of amnesty.

Yes, it is. More clients for the welfare state are always welcome in the view of a politician, be he 'rat or puke.

[4Freedom]

Out with the Kennedy law and the 14th Amendment. You got my vote.

[4Freedom]

Puerto Rico is figting for full welfare benefits parity with the United States.

If that happens, the Domincans and Haitians will make a human bridge across the Mona Channel.

[FairWitness]

There is a little bit of jealousy because Dominicans take jobs that Puerto Ricans don't want," said Iris Figuereo, a vice consul at the Dominican Consulate.

Are the Puerto Ricans "getting rich on the backs" of the Domenicans? </ sarcasm>