[eno_]

When was the last time Google was unavailable when you wanted it?

[bvw]

Hey, you certainly can make extremely stable unix systems, when you set your mind and body to it. I'm just speaking to some experiences in mixed shops. It's no knock to unix at all.

The mature but diminishing crowd that does mainframes however is more savvy as how to keep out the kind of fast-paced changes or radical expectations that in combination with widespread belief that unix programming talent is as common as dirt causes systems to be immaturely spec'd, designed and built and consequent problems.

It has nothing to do with the software, its all in the sociology.