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To: Prysson
The Japanese shared none of those with us...now look at our relations with them. Your thinking puts us in the same class as those in East Europe, and even further east, those countries that we, in the west, look at and say...'why don't those people get over it?' America is not like that yet. If you continue to hate, then that is what you will reap.
88 posted on 08/06/2002 9:40:46 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
Your Japanese example is yet another bad one. Japan also only became our "friends" after we destroyed them in war. Had we not defeated them in a war they would own most of the Pacific right now and we certainly would not be friends. And that is besides the point that they are not our "friends."
Strategic and economic allies yes but that does not make us "friends" We are still barbarians by their cultural perspective...ironic since they were the ones who were running around conquering killing and raping and looting the entire pacific rim.

Your world view is just too simplistic. You think because we arent at someones throat that they are our "friends" and that all is hunky dory. You dont think that countries like japan and Germany and other nations in the world ever try to damage the United States or bring us down a level just because you dont see bombs dropping. Being at peace with someone does not make them friendly. Of all of the countries in the world I would say that only the British Commonwealth are really our "friends" and even they get testy with us at times.

I do not "hate" muslims. If they were willing to live in peace I would gladly let them. The point is that they have never in their 1400 year history demonstrated that they want that and are willing to in fact "live peacefully" with us. That is the point I am trying to make. Hate has nothing to do with my arguments.

I dont know what you mean when you say that we are in the same class of countries as those who say "why dont those people get over it?"

Get over what exactly....are you suggesting that we just "get over" the destruction of the world trade center and the deaths of tousands of innocent lives. If that is what you are suggesting than i have to adamantly tell you no. I suppose we should have just "gotten over Pearl Harbor" rather than going to war with Japan...where would our "friendship" be then. Not only will I not "get over it" I will not ignore the mountain of evidence and the ceaseless tirades that they issue threatening to take us down. Are you one of those people who thinks if we just let by gones be by gones then everything would be alright. If you are then I dont know what more can be said to you. If you refuse to even see that right now there are forces in the world marshalling their weapons and there plans to destroy us then no amount of discussion is going to sway you and I wont even waste anymore time with you.

94 posted on 08/06/2002 10:00:19 AM PDT by Prysson
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