[Prysson]

Peace in Islamic terms is a very different thing than peace in Christian Western terms.

For a westerner who says...lets have peace. They mean lets stop fighting come to the table and settle our differences so we can stop the killing.

For a muslim in accordance with their faith. Peace is the Peace of Allah. It is achieved when all of the world falls under Islamic control. All infidels and unbelievers are killed. Those christians and Jews remaining are allowed to remain christians and jews but they exists as second class citizens and they must still follow the law of Muhammad.

Should a muslim kill you and you were a christian they would not be severly punished for it. Death can not be prescribed for a muslim killing a non-believer under the law of Mohammed. Women are property. Then when all of that is achieved and the world comes under the dominion of Islam...there will be peace. So to a muslim who says he wants peace...it is actually like saying I want to conquer you and force you to submit to my religion.

Now does every muslim in the world believe that...no I dare say they dont.I have no doubt that just as there are difewrent sects of christianity there are different sect of Islam. But what difference does that make. A minority of Muslim moderates who dont actually want to conquer the world is not a basis for an effective defense in the face of the vast majority of them that would gleefully slit our collective throats. If the Catholic Church was out screaming for the heads of all easterners would you argue that easterners shouldnt be concerned because Dutch Reformers dont hate them. The moderates are not in control. If they were I would not be advocating a war. If they as a people werent ceaslessly trying to expand there influence even at the point of the sword I wouldnt be suggesting that we fight them. But they are and no amount of burying our heads in the sand is going to make them stop.

By the way I am not saying that you hold any of the positions I argue against. I was just speaking generally.

[philosofy123]

Islam is like all other religions, it teaches that its way is the right way, and all others are wrong. That is a normal marketing technique. If you are selling coke and you advertise that it tastes just as good as Pepsi, and RC, then how you are going to differentiate between your product and other product. It is important to have pride of your product and faith that it is a better product. In addition, it would help if you have a persuasive program to steal market share from your competitors.

Just to illustrate that idea to the closed minded readers, Christianity teaches that no one can go to heaven except through Jesus Christ. Judaism, teaches that God chose them as his preferred people over the rest of humanity. God tells them what land to take over, and so on…

Having said that, I must go back to examine Islam and its barbaric technique to capture “market share”. It is obvious to the knowledgeable person how unfair their laws are. For example If you are a Moslem you may marry a no-Moslem woman, but her children must be Moslems. A non-Moslem man cannot marry a Moslem woman. If a Moslem chooses to convert to other religion, he must be killed, but people from other religions are welcomed and mostly forced to convert to Islam.

As you can see as the rest of the world started to take their religions less seriously, Islam continued its barbaric and rigid practice of forcing people by the sword to its fold. Only 75 years ago Islam was mostly in North Africa, now it dominates most of Africa. The latest territories are Nigeria, and the Sudan where Christians are slaughtered daily by Moslem maniacs.

The Us and the rest of the European Christians choose to look the other way. That is very similar to the Nazi threats; first it was against the retards, I am not one so who cares, then it was against the gypsies, I am not one so who cares, then it was against the Jews, I am not one so who cares,….If you don’t speak out, sooner or later it is going up your own bottom!

Now for the uninformed ignoramus masses, the 9/11 case is a wake up call for them to understand the world-wide Islamic campaign to capture concur, and convert through force. Peaceful Christians, who love their enemies, are like sheeps will be slaughtered by the Moslem swords. They can pray to their Jesus to defend them. However, from history, Jesus did not interfere in Constantinople, the holy land, Spain, Egypt, and Sudan! Neither the God of Moses care to drop food on the Jews in the desert anymore!

Religion id a good think for humanity, but it should be confined to the person, and his/her relationship with God. Governments should not have a preferential treatment for one religion over the others.

Now, that takes us back to the Moslems. The government of all Moslem countries pays its clerics, and funds its mosques. That makes it so simple to impose reform on Islam, through governments. In other words, dictators kings and presidents of all these rag-head Islamic nations can be held PERSONALY responsible for the teaching of hate in the Mosques. Say Bush calls all these losers and say, this Friday, I will monitor your mosques sermons, if I hear any hate, you will be killed! We may start with the friendly nations, the one we know exactly where everything is! Like Jordan, and Egypt! I am sure it can be done mush less dramatically and much more diplomatically. However, in essence, we should not shy away from threatening the leaders to impose good teaching in their mosques, or else!

We can control their leaders. We can impose on them to request teaching in the mosques that is more peaceful and less barbaric. WE can do like Clinton use to do, either do this or you will be dead in a drive by shooting, found in a park with a bullet in your head, or crashed in a mountain?