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Pagan druid claims anger archbishop
BBC ^ | August 4, 2002 | Unattributed BBC

Posted on 08/04/2002 10:58:12 PM PDT by SlickWillard

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Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

the field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


Confutatis maledictis     When the accursed are confounded
Flammis acribus addictis:     and surrendered to the bitter flames:
Voca me cum benedictis...     Call me with the blessed...

1 posted on 08/04/2002 10:58:12 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Williams has already announced that he will crown the whoremongering Hanoverian adulterer. I don't know why we should be surprised when he announces he's a Druid.

2 posted on 08/04/2002 11:00:05 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: JMJ333
Look on the bright side: Maybe this will hasten the end of the world, and that'll be one less thing we have to worry about.
3 posted on 08/04/2002 11:00:49 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
Goodness, if there ever was a man worthy of being executed by the church for heresy and working with evil, this man qualifies.
4 posted on 08/04/2002 11:04:19 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: SlickWillard
Not a joke, not the original headline.

Pagan druid claims anger archbishop

5 posted on 08/04/2002 11:07:08 PM PDT by dighton
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To: SlickWillard
Wasn't he the Last Christian in England anyway?
6 posted on 08/04/2002 11:09:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: SlickWillard
It's not as sinister as all that.

The Gorsedd of the Bards is strictly a Welch cultural organization with absolutely no connection to ancient paganism.

Eisteddfod are cultural festivals and are the Welch equivalent of Up Helly Aa in the Shetlands or country music festivals in own South.

Their dressing up in robes is about the same thing as the Shriners dressing up in Egyptian garb. The Welch set great store in singing, harp-playing and the like.

On the whole, they have some of the best men's choruses in the world.

7 posted on 08/04/2002 11:13:28 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: SlickWillard
Fine.
From now on you will be adressed as Lord Cathbad, Dubhtach, maybe Sitchenn but most likely, "fricken idiot".
8 posted on 08/04/2002 11:16:53 PM PDT by lizma
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To: P-Marlowe
Wasn't he the Last Christian in England anyway?

No, the last Christian turned off the lights on his way out the door. After a short cab ride to the train depot, he purchased a ticket for the last train to the coast.

Then the music died.

9 posted on 08/04/2002 11:20:05 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: quidnunc
I remember you from waaaayy back. Lucianne, Pipe Bomb news.

You ain't from these parts, are you?
10 posted on 08/04/2002 11:20:49 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
Lizma wrote: I remember you from waaaayy back. Lucianne, Pipe Bomb news. You ain't from these parts, are you?

L.com yes, PipeBombNews, no.

Check my profile and compare my "member-since" date with your own.

11 posted on 08/04/2002 11:26:04 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: dighton
Not a joke, not the original headline.

As I was driving home tonight, I caught the BBC World Service News on FM radio, and the announcer titled the story, "The Archbishop of Canterbury Converts to Druidism." I couldn't believe my ears.

I searched all over the BBC web site for a link to that soundbite, but this story was the best I could do. In fact, it was so hard to find this link that I started to get REAL suspicious: I think they're trying to sweep this thing under the rug.

Remember the great revelation of the Clinton years: If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears about it, then the tree never fell in the first place.

12 posted on 08/04/2002 11:26:13 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
"Cryin'" is his best song. Nobody did it better. Not even Orbison.
13 posted on 08/04/2002 11:27:45 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: quidnunc
They do have similar organisations in Ireland, to celebrate Celtic culture. However, I don't think it is altogether appropriate for a Christian clergyman to play a such a role. Because of all the New Age and pagan religions which proliferate, and the mixed messages the public gets.
14 posted on 08/04/2002 11:31:27 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: SlickWillard
This year's Archdruid, retired lawyer and judge Dr Robyn Lewis, who will ordain Dr Williams, said: "We are not like the English druids.

"The Stonehenge druids are a pot-smoking crowd. Ours is a very respectable society.

Oh no. Not us. We're not like those beastly other Druids. We're real Druids.

See? Druids are just like the Republican party. They have their conservatives and their liberals.

15 posted on 08/04/2002 11:35:12 PM PDT by Salman
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To: SlickWillard
More discussion here -- Archbishop Williams Insists He's No Pagan - Canterbury Top Pick To Be Honorary Druid.
16 posted on 08/04/2002 11:35:12 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: BlackVeil
BlackVeil wrote: They do have similar organisations in Ireland, to celebrate Celtic culture. However, I don't think it is altogether appropriate for a Christian clergyman to play a such a role. Because of all the New Age and pagan religions which proliferate, and the mixed messages the public gets.

I agree with you there, this is something which a prudent Archbishop of Canterbury probably should have declined.

However, he is not converting to pagan Druidism and he won't be sacrificing any peasants by burning them alive at the equinoxes in wicker cages shaped like animals.

17 posted on 08/04/2002 11:36:45 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
"he won't be sacrificing any peasants by burning them alive at the equinoxes ... " OHHH! Why NOT? Think what it would do for the tourist industry. I suppose that it is no use, either, inviting him to Tara Hill, in Ireland, where the Celtic Chief Priest used to have sex with mare, then sacrifice the horse and consume its flesh and blood in a sacred cauldron.

Ah, the good old days ...
18 posted on 08/04/2002 11:45:03 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: All; Admin Moderator
Well, it took the censors here at CensorshipRepublic all of about ten minutes to alter this thread. For the record, this was the original title:
Archbishop of Canterbury Converts to Druidism [This is NOT a joke.]

19 posted on 08/04/2002 11:47:19 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
Geesh, My ancestors were most likely Druid. Lots of Celt and Pict in me as well. I acknowledge them and pay homage to my ancestry, especially at appropriate times of the year...IE the change of seasons, rhthym of nature. Actually I've been know to paint myself blue and jumpt thgouth the fire a few times, hehehehe.

I know nothing about this man, the pecadillos you imply, nor do I want to know. I do agree with this statemnt though...

"The ceremony is not pagan. It is quite innocent. It is a society for the furtherance of the arts in Wales, nothing more."

If I were of Native American descent and several times a year celebrated my heritage by dressing as they did and celebrated life as they did would that be evil as well?

Come to think about it what about the "Indian Guides"...the group similar to scouts that teaches young boys Indian ways.

And now that I mention it have you ever been to scout ceremonies like the "Order of the Arrow"? It's can be a wondeful, moving ceremony! When my oldest son - now an Eagle Scout - made OoA the ceremnoy was held at camp on visitors night. All the parents - several hundred in this case - were led to the lakeshore by scouts dressed only in indian loincloths. The warriors even wore body paintings.

We stood in total silence as dusk fell and watched as The Great Chief left his campfire - seen through the mist on an island across the lake. Straddling two canoes paddled by his warriors, The Great Chief slowly and silently with the exception of faint drumming, drifted toward the crowd.

After he inspected us he motioned for our guides to light torches and lead us to The Secret Place, where new members would be initiated.

We traveld perhaps a mile through the forest and were guided into a circle around The Great Fire and the real ceremony began. I can't and won't bore you with the details but suffice to say the ceremony lasted a long time, perhaps two hours or more. It was one of the most beautiful, fulfilling and uplifting experiences of my life, not to mention my son's.

To that end my view of some - not all of course, the current Stonehenge group ARE pot smoking johnny come latelys - of these "Druid" celebrations is in the same frame. It's a celebration of heritage, honoring of ancestors and something worth preserving.

prisoner6

20 posted on 08/04/2002 11:49:03 PM PDT by prisoner6
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