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To: A6M3
Reply to post #6: Abortion and smoking a joint isn't what is being compared. It is the rationalization process that immoral people use to justify their immoral acts that is at issue. Your post proved my point.

And my point was the hypocrisy that your post uses to lump pot users into a catchall "immoral" group. If use of pot is what is going to make it into the "immoral" group, then you would have to include use of alcohol, or any intoxicant. Not that anyone appeared to have the strength of conviction to seriously debate me. Carry Nation must be rolling in her grave, hmmm?
58 posted on 08/06/2002 2:50:02 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: WyldKard
If use of pot is what is going to make it into the "immoral" group, then you would have to include use of alcohol, or any intoxicant.

You have a semi-valid point. If the intoxicant has no valid use, then its use is immoral.

Using pot simply to get high is immoral. Using alcohol simply to get a buzz is immoral. Neither is as immoral as murder, except on the ground that even the tiniest sin separates us from G-d and requires the blood of Jesus. Also, when we stand before Christ for judgement I don't believe He is going to accept, "Well, yeah, I did that, but I'm not as bad as Charles Manson."

However, wine is mentioned in the Bible as having medicinal value which has been confirmed by modern medical science. Apparently a glass a day is actually good for you. Whether you can include beer or whisky I can't say as I have not heard the study extended to those beverages. They are not mentioned in the Bible, but then I don't think the Jews brewed beer or distilled alcohol. I could be wrong.

IMO: Jesus taught that all morality boils down to a heart issue. What is in your heart means much more than what passes your lips. One key indicator as to whether a substance is immoral, whether it is pot, tobacco, or french fries, would be the reaction of a person to the phrase, "Maybe you should give that up."

A reasoned reaction indicates that there may not be immorality involved, or if there is the person is open to the prompting of the Holy Spirit to a change of behavior. A knee-jerk, "when they pry it from my cold, dead hands," reaction would indicated there is likely immorality involved.

Where is your heart on pot?

Shalom.

61 posted on 08/06/2002 6:53:09 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: WyldKard
Reply to post #58: And once again your post proves my point. As far as a serious debate is concerned, I don't waste my time debating the rationalizations (usually trying to pose as serious debating points), of drug addicts (which includes pot heads) and drunks.
70 posted on 08/06/2002 10:00:42 PM PDT by A6M3
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