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HOW CONSERVATIVE IS PRESIDENT BUSH?
The Cato Institute ^ | August 3, 2002 | By Veronique de Rugy

Posted on 08/04/2002 8:30:36 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

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To: terilyn
VERY late to this thread, but I was also present on the JW thread, and you posted the FACTS exactly as they happened.

As a fairly new poster (long time reader of articles only) I was surprised that Registered kept asking over and over and over whether Howlin had voted. He didn't seem to be participating in the thread, to me, beyond wanting to needle Howlin.
501 posted on 08/05/2002 7:46:43 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Luis Gonzalez
LOL!
502 posted on 08/05/2002 7:50:44 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Satadru
Are you claiming that Bush is more pro-life than Reagan. Is that a joke?

No, it's not a joke.

Bush renewed the Mexico City policy. Bush will sign a partial-birth abortion ban.

Reagan TALKED about a constitutional amendment, yes. He knew, and you know, that it will never happen.

503 posted on 08/05/2002 7:57:09 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Satadru
No, actually I tihnk you don't know what it means, and what exactly is entailed in the reaearch.

oh, you do?

So then tell me:

1. Are children aborted for this research?

2. Did Bush approve aborting fetuses for this reasearch?

3. Are ANY fetuses harmed in the research President Bush allowed to remain??

4. Are ANY embryos harmed in the research President Bush allowed to remain? See if you can ctach that difference)

There are four VERY simple questoins since you already have the answers.

Looking forward to your reply. cheers.

504 posted on 08/05/2002 8:02:17 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: justshe
He didn't seem to be participating in the thread, to me, beyond wanting to needle Howlin.

So true. If you look back at the majority of Registered's post, they are very short remarks that are either attempting to be funny or personal fighting; very seldom any substance.

I had a feud with him some time back when during an argumentative exchange, he claimed that if I posted 10 things I had done to help elect Bush, he could name 50 that he had done.

Aside from being very ironic to think about in light of his Bush bashing of present, it was delightfully amusing.

I posted 10 and then asked him to post his 50. He squirmed for two days trying to avoid it. But following a little pressure after his boasting so strongly, he felt he had to post something.

I am not kidding when I tell you that he actually posted things such as:

1. Put bumper sticker on car
2. Put bumper sticker on wife's car
3. Put yard sign up
4. Argued with fellow workers in defense of Bush
5. Etc.

It was embarrassingly idiotic, but then I can't say I was really surprised.

505 posted on 08/05/2002 8:11:39 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Uncle Bill
It makes little sense to discourage one's core supporters prior to a mid-term election. Yet that is the result when a Republican president expands government, which Bush is doing.

Clintoon pandered to his core with gays in the military and Hillary-care among other issues. He was destroyed in 1994. You have to pander to independents in midterms. Clintoon did and was rewarded in 1998.

506 posted on 08/05/2002 8:14:43 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Very interesting. Very.
507 posted on 08/05/2002 8:14:50 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; Howlin; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
What I find laughable is the fact they (registered, KFP, EV, rdf, rowdee, etc...the people who are posting AFer type material at LP, and also trashing John rob when he posts there) outted themsleves as to the ease of their ability to be decieved.

"ned" posted as different names for so long and took them to task. He had them agreeing and arguing with him at the same time.

How have they outted themselves, this band of intelligent conservatives?

They show they are not only easily led astray by some internet perosnality, "ned" (and other monickers) but they follow Keyes and Klayman as well, two people who are better at it than "ned", and this group of intellects STILL don't see it. The fact they brought this out in the open only embarasses themselves.

And what a lugher it was to have him banned over a link from their leaders website (Keyes - "Strike The root")

This is all too funny to say the least. What winners!

508 posted on 08/05/2002 8:22:47 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jla
Don't you find it amusing that these are the same people who revere Reagan's 11th commandment. What a joke!
509 posted on 08/05/2002 9:19:34 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: sjeann
"...What do you want freepers to do- mount up a movement to impeach Bush because he isn't conservative enough?...I'm a long time reader here and appreciate the criticism, but you tell me, what is your solution. "

And what do you suggest? FReepers merely nod their head in approval when Dubya or ANY President for that matter engages in policies that we feel are detrimental to the Republic? This is a forum of which some of us hope our voices are being heard...

For starters, Dubya can start validating himself as a preserver of American sovereignty by truly enforcing the borders the way Eisenhower did it during 'Operation Wetback' -- search and deport illegal aliens. Is that so rash? Only is Dubya is thinking about Mexicans votes. Think he's not??

Then, for a change, he can stop caving in to the Democrats and Teddy on domestic fiscal issues like the 8 billion extra he donated to further socialist education; federalizing MORE government employees, and printing up money and sending it overseas as though it were monopoly money....etc.

I only hope the man doesn't bend like a wet noodle when it comes down to nominations of a conservative Supreme Court justice.

510 posted on 08/05/2002 9:25:10 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Texasforever
Good post!
511 posted on 08/05/2002 9:28:04 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Texasforever
"He has asked that local law enforcement agencies help in arresting illegal aliens. They told him to piss up a rope."

And this is "leadership"??

"He has asked that congress review Posse Comitatus Act to determine if troops can be used to patrol the borders, he has been accused of plotting a dictatorship."

Why is it we can spend billions of dollars here, there and everywhere around the world to protect "American interests", yet the President needs "permission" to kick illegal invaders out of the country? IMO, it's a stalling tactic -- wouldn't want to insult El Presidente Fox...

"Should I go on?"

Please do...

512 posted on 08/05/2002 9:31:11 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
1. Are children aborted for this research?

I got a big kick out of this one. Sort of shows how dangerously pro-abortion you are that you let these things slip. You want to abort a child? How late? 5-10-15 years old? If it helps your man, I am sure you will.

2. Did Bush approve aborting fetuses for this reasearch?

Actually, he did. It was on the front page of the Chicago Tribune a few weeks.

I don't understand your other questions, but I am sure it is meant to cloud the issue. What I do remember is that Bush opposed it during the election. He does not need us any longer until 2004. I will campaign very hard and long to make sure that this cancer in the White House is removed.

513 posted on 08/05/2002 9:31:41 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: nopardons
Try reading up on 'Operation Wetback' -- part of U.S. History...
514 posted on 08/05/2002 9:32:31 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
I nominate Vicente Fox for vice-President in 2004. What do you say?
515 posted on 08/05/2002 9:32:39 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: Satadru
"I nominate Vicente Fox for vice-President in 2004. What do you say?"

Oughta lock-up the Latino vote, eh?

516 posted on 08/05/2002 9:37:36 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Twodees
Excuse me. I was on that thread too. And as a new poster, with NO history of things that had happened before, I can confirm everything that terilyn, mo1, TBLshow, and DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet have posted re: what happened. I would also add, that having no history, I was surprised at the goading that was being done by Registered.

Every 4 or 5 posts on that thread, Registered would ask Howlin about whether she voted. Over and over and over. Terilyn said it happened at least 5 times. It seemed like many more to me.

And yes, he did post the voter registration table, exactly as you have been told. And yes, you could click on the name and see personal information.

And yes, he did follow howlin to another thread because I was on that thread too.

So your willingness to discount ALL first-hand accounts is surprising to me.

As to your assertion re: cyber-stalking. I have actually seen a case of this on another site. And in order to have a 'crime' prosecuted, someone must bring that charge. In the case I reference it was the owner of the site that brought the charge. I don't know if that has been done in this case or not. But it IS federal, and is a long, drawn-out process. The person in that case is now doing federal time. And no, I was just an observer and was not involved in that situation.

So you can turn a blind eye. But, it happened, as reported here. It is NOT a figment of anyone's imagination. You have been given the facts and I corroborate those facts.



517 posted on 08/05/2002 9:52:16 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Uncle Bill
I see you've awoken the pinko wing of the conservative movement.

Most of the personality cultists are one liner newbies with who have no idea what the hell they want or what their philosophy is. All they know is if their "team" promotes it they're it's a good idea, they just make up their idiot defense lines as they go along.

They don't argue whether this or that is good for America, all they do is compare hero-boy to everyone else. Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Hillary etc.

Every single conservative who dare speak ill of their figurehead/mascott get's put on the list of bad people with motives to be impuned.

That's why I call them all personality cultists, because all they know how to do is talk about people, rarely if ever ideas. The people they "root for" must win at all costs and the people they don't like must be beaten. Sort of like a giant Superbowl game, except our coutry is the gridiron and our lives are the football.

Stupid petty morons.

518 posted on 08/05/2002 10:04:39 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Uncle Bill
I see you've awoken the pinko wing of the conservative movement.

Most of the personality cultists are one liner newbies with who have no idea what the hell they want or what their philosophy is. All they know is if their "team" promotes it they're it's a good idea, they just make up their idiot defense lines as they go along.

They don't argue whether this or that is good for America, all they do is compare hero-boy to everyone else. Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Hillary etc.

Every single conservative who dare speak ill of their figurehead/mascott get's put on the list of bad people with motives to be impuned.

That's why I call them all personality cultists, because all they know how to do is talk about people, rarely if ever ideas. The people they "root for" must win at all costs and the people they don't like must be beaten. Sort of like a giant Superbowl game, except our coutry is the gridiron and our lives are the football.

Stupid petty morons.

519 posted on 08/05/2002 10:04:40 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: terilyn
So you go ahead and listen to Reg's side of it over on LF. He knows better and I would never have expected him to do something like this. Much less continue to spread disinformation about what happened. I honestly had more respect for him than that.

i don't think registered is spreading disinformation on another forum. i saw where he posted "there is no excuse for what i did..." (admitting his error) and nothing further about the incident.

520 posted on 08/05/2002 10:04:55 AM PDT by christine
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