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Christian Designs Found In Tomb Stones Of Eastern Han Dynasty
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| 8-2-2002
Posted on 08/04/2002 3:00:50 PM PDT by blam
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posted on
08/04/2002 3:00:51 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Han Stone Reliefs
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posted on
08/04/2002 3:03:56 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Are there pictures?
I'd be interested in seeing them.
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posted on
08/04/2002 3:18:39 PM PDT
by
trussell
To: trussell
Just the one in post #2. (The only one attached to the article, that I'm aware of)
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posted on
08/04/2002 3:37:09 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Of collateral interest is how this again demonstrates the ability of at least some people to travel at that time and the apparent interaction between peoples. This is important in refuting the idea among some historians that societies were essential static and little happened from millena to millenia.
It takes on special significance in suggesting that Jesus did not spend 20 years of his life pounding nails. There is no Biblical reason to believe that after age 12 he ran the local arts and craft shoppe. Indeed, there is lots of extra-Biblical evidence to suggest he traveled very widely outside the region, including to France and England. Other evidence suggests he traveled to India. Did he also travel to South America???
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posted on
08/04/2002 4:11:00 PM PDT
by
LostTribe
To: LostTribe
" Did he (Jesus) also travel to South America??? I've seen articles that say he was in America too but, I'm not about to post those articles.
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posted on
08/04/2002 4:19:01 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
>I've seen articles that say he [Jesus] was in America too but, I'm not about to post those articles.
HaHaHa! That's funny, considering some of the other areas you lead us into! You are the internet equivalent of Art Bell! ---ggg---.
But the subject of Jesus visiting South America is not a new one at all. Dr. Barry Feld would be quite comfortable discussing it, I believe.
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posted on
08/04/2002 4:22:21 PM PDT
by
LostTribe
To: blam
"It is globally accepted that Christianity was first carried into China by a Syrian missionary Alopen in 635 A.D."Well that doesn't make it true.
Concensus is neither truth nor reality.
Concensus neither creates nor identifies truth.
I know. This violates everything "Liberals" believe and hold dear, including--horror or horrors!--the significance of New York Times's being the newspaper of record! They think that if something is "globally accepted" it is therefore true.
To: blam
I take it all back. You are NOT anything at all like Art Bell. He goes places NO ONE should go. ---ggg---.
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posted on
08/04/2002 6:39:51 PM PDT
by
LostTribe
To: blam
The article is vague, but the "Bible stories" it refers to seem to be Old Testament stories.
If there is no mention of Jesus on these stones, how does he know the designs are Christian? They could be Jewish.
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posted on
08/04/2002 6:44:58 PM PDT
by
Inyokern
To: LostTribe
FELL, not "Feld."
And he would not be comfortable discussing it in THIS plane, at least, for he died suddenly several years ago now, about late 1994.
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posted on
08/04/2002 6:45:58 PM PDT
by
crystalk
To: Inyokern
This symbol also has no mention of Jesus, but it's Christian meaning is pretty obvious.
FISH.
To: crystalk
>FELL, not "Feld."
You are of course correct. His passing was a serious loss to all open-minded thinkers.
To: LostTribe
This symbol also has no mention of Jesus, but it's Christian meaning is pretty obvious. FISH.Do you see a specifically Christian fish symbol in the carving? I don't see it.
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posted on
08/04/2002 6:53:29 PM PDT
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Inyokern
To: LostTribe
To those unfamiliar with Dr. Barry Fell of Harvard fame, this is what we are talking about:
America B.C. One of the seminal works in the field.
To: Inyokern
>Do you see a specifically Christian fish symbol in the carving? I don't see it.
No, I'm making the broader point that it may not require a museum sign with a pointing arrow in order to possibly be understood.
To: blam
To: LostTribe
No, I'm making the broader point that it may not require a museum sign with a pointing arrow in order to possibly be understood.Let me ask the question this way: Do you see anything in the article or the photograph that indicate that the carvings are based on Christianity rather than some other culture that had the stories of the Old Testament, such as the Jews.
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posted on
08/04/2002 7:20:38 PM PDT
by
Inyokern
To: LostTribe
Of collateral interest is how this again demonstrates the ability of at least some people to travel at that time and the apparent interaction between peoples. This is important in refuting the idea among some historians that societies were essential static and little happened from millena to millenia.
I remember the stories of how scholars were belittling the idea of Abraham and family traveling from the Tigris/Euphrates region to the Mediterranean and down to Egypt. They said much the same thing about little movement of these ancient peoples. Subsequent discoveries proved them wrong. There have been found contracts dating from the time of Abraham, actually wagon rental agreements in which there appeared specific restrictions that enjoined the renter from taking the wagon on trips over to the Mediterranean region, a clear indication that such movement was common.
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posted on
08/04/2002 7:28:16 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: unitedwestand
"Very interesting reading." Thanks it was interesting.
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posted on
08/04/2002 7:38:41 PM PDT
by
blam
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