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US Orders Oil Reserves Filled
PR Newswire ^ | 4 Aug 2002

Posted on 08/04/2002 12:33:41 PM PDT by JPJ1

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To: rintense
I still think the best thing that could happen is for GWB to order a strike from Crawford- while sitting on horseback with a cowboy hat on. :)

We know you'll post the pictures! :)

141 posted on 08/04/2002 8:10:52 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Attack date: September 11, 2002

Best to start on the weekend. 2 AM 7 Sept, Saturday morning. Saddam to fall on 11 Sept.

142 posted on 08/04/2002 8:16:15 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
I think Americans presently do not see Saddam as threatening as the theocratic regime Iran. That's the problem. It looks like the USA is picking on the easiest target instead of the most menacing.
143 posted on 08/04/2002 8:19:29 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: TheDon
Well, the point is that Japan was not a dictatorship, anymore than England with its queen. The contention that I make is that Iraq is not equipped to be another Japan. It will be enough just to keep the ethnic hatreds in check. The best solution for that, given the entire context of the Arab world, would be a Hashemite king.
144 posted on 08/04/2002 8:36:24 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: kinghorse
It looks like the USA is picking on the easiest target instead of the most menacing.

Picking on? This isn't playground politics.

145 posted on 08/04/2002 8:47:48 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Dog
Dog predicts....end of August....first week of September.

PC predicts... Sept 5.

146 posted on 08/04/2002 10:01:55 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: AmishDude
Japan was a dictatorship prior to WW2. Either way you interpret Japanese pre-WW2 politics, I think most scholars believe either the Emperor or the military regime (like a Shogunate) was running the country's expansionistic foreign policy during the 1930's. The real problem was the failure of the FDR Administration to contain and draw a boundary on both Japanese and German expansion.

Now, just like in the early 1940's, we're dealing with an expansionistic regime in a militaristic context seeking to dominate peaceful societies around it. In 1941 it was Imperialistic Japan and Nazi Germany/Italy. In 2001 it is militant Islam.

Iraq is more equipped than Japan was. Japan was natural resource poor, which created their drive to control Manuchuria, Indochina, and the shipping lanes between these "colonies". Iraq is natural resource rich but does not control the major transportation arteries around herself.

If a peaceful Palestinian state could co-exist with Israel, it could redirect oil exportation and water rights into Palestinian controlled corporate or governmental hands. The real issue is the impact on Iraqi and Iranian oil production if Saddam was ousted.

Presuming an Iraqi National Coalition could create a democratic/republican form of governance; the need for a Palestinian state may be not as imperative. Palestinians could choose to move to the new Iraqi nation(s).

147 posted on 08/04/2002 10:04:48 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Trident/Delta
Ping! Thinking of you........ (f/k/a MadAsHell)
148 posted on 08/04/2002 10:59:15 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: unix
American's are audacious. We are slow to rouse, but once we have been, stand by. Long ago we passed the "surprise" attack on a large scale. Now, we let you know were comin' for ya, and when we do come, we leave dead enemy everywhere.

You ain't a kidding...

Isaiah 18:Go, swift messengers, to a people tall and smooth-skinned, to a people feared far and wide, an aggressive nation of strange speech, whose land is divided by rivers.
All you people of the world, you who live on the earth, when a banner is raised on the mountains, you will see it, and when a trumpet sounds, you will hear it.

The banner and the trumpet is when war is declared. When America declares war, the world trembles... (IMHO) -grin-

149 posted on 08/05/2002 3:17:31 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Jimer
This time, let's take and keep about 80% of Iraq's oil field to pay for the war against Iraq, the follow-up war with Iran, and other necessary ant-terrist actions. When out national debt is paid off, we can return the oil fields to Iraq.

Now you're talking.

150 posted on 08/05/2002 7:18:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: JPJ1
watch for them to start uncapping domestic wells too, that'll have the Greenies in a snit :)
151 posted on 08/05/2002 8:00:28 AM PDT by Copperhead61
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To: AmishDude
Tell that to Tojo. It was a queer arraignment to be sure. Kind of a dictator with an Emperor kind of over him.

A Hashemite king? Isn't the Jordanian king a Hashemite? Now that's something the US could offer the Jordanian King in return for his cooperation in a war against Iraq. Perhaps they could even give the Palestinian Arabs their own state in part of the current Jordan, in a swap for most of Iraq. Now that's quite a deal for Jordan's King!
152 posted on 08/05/2002 12:01:16 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon
Yes, the current Jordanian king is Hashemite. They have instant legitimacy throughout the region. A US-installed Hashemite king wouldn't be seen as a US-lackey. The Palies wanted to form a state within Jordan some time ago, but then-King Hussein put an end to that pretty quick.

Any democracy attempt in Iraq will just take forever to implement and will likely be rejected like a transplanted heart of the wrong blood type.

153 posted on 08/05/2002 12:30:13 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
"The Palies wanted to form a state within Jordan some time ago, but then-King Hussein put an end to that pretty quick."

What do you think? If you were King of Jordan and the US made a deal where you would acquire most, if not all, of Iraq, in return for giving up some land in current Jordan for a Pali state, would you go for it?

The Pali Arabs get a state, the Jordanians get rid of the Pali Arabs, the Israelis get a defendable state, Saddam gone... I think you are a genius! Is this idea original to you? Come on tell the truth! Jordan also seems more Westernized than other Arab dictatorships/Kingdoms/gov'ts.
154 posted on 08/05/2002 2:36:49 PM PDT by TheDon
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