Posted on 08/04/2002 10:41:57 AM PDT by testforecho
Now your talking truly great cinema!
FMCDH
I read this and was expecting something much funnier to follow. But why give it away for free, eh?
This is one reason I believe a movie like Casablanca will never be made again. In that movie there was definitely a spark between Bogart and Bacall (?) but they never did anything about it -- and that was the emotional power behind the movie.
At its more complex, engagement is replaced by another mechanism entirely. Instead of character development in movies or full-bodied jokes in situation comedies viewers get a set of signals, a kind of code, that advises them how to respond without having to expend the effort, however minimal, that real entertainment demands. You see or hear the signal and you respond as if you were getting the real thing. Or put another way, you are given the form and you provide the content.He seems to be saying that entertainment today depends on the use of stock figures and situations, and signals that effectively act like "laughter" or "applause" signs. I guess that's as opposed to the good old days--<sarcasm> heaven knows that commedia dell'arte didn't depend on stock figures, and the songs of the troubadours didn't depend on stock situations such as a dialogue between a man and a woman he was trying to seduce...</sarcasm>I'm gonna need a pretty convincing example to buy what this guy is selling right here. Seriously, what on earth is he talking about?
Last night our electricity was out so I turned on a radio. WMAL was broadcating "When Radio Was". I really enjoyed it.
Set your alarm tonight for 1:00 am :)
But when wasn't this true? That's my point.
What the author completely fails to demonstrate is that this is some kind of change from the way films used to be. In short, he's "faking" the argument, by making some sweeping generalizations but not provided any justification for them.
Instead, they rip off the car chase stuff from Bullitt and French Connection.
No, the bad moviemakers rip off the car chase stuff from Buillitt and French Connection. Yet again you're comparing bad movies of today with good films of yesteryear. I have yet to see one fair comparison.
They have an explosion scene.
Yup, Saving Private Ryan had an "explosion scene" (Normandy). How derivative....
When they are thru, you have a big-name big-cost movie that is really just a string of scenes and no real pretense of a movie. That is a fake.
No, it's a schlocky, bad, movie. It's not a "fake". It's still a movie, isn't it? Just not a very good one. And?
Are you under the impression that bad movies didn't exist however many years ago?
Did producers make fake and crap before, in the 50's and 60's for example.
Heck yeah. You really don't think so?
The point is that we simply don't remember the bad crappy derivative stuff which was put out in the 50s and 60s, because it was (drumroll) bad. That doesn't mean that all the movies that came out between 1950-1969 were of the quality of North by Northwest. Ever seen those "beach" movies with Annette Funicello? Give me a break.
And when people go to see an Adam Sandler movie, ... well, you get my point :)
The trouble nowadays is that too many of the big-name big-cost movies are formulaic ripoffs.
Maybe. I'd certainly prefer it if less of them are ripoffs. In any event, I won't argue.
That doesn't make them "illusions of entertainment", however. Just bad movies. Bad movies are a phenomenon which has been with us for quite some time. I still don't see how you or the author of the article can seriously expect to get away with saying otherwise.
Take "Fast and Furious" for example. Take "Tomb Raider". Take "Remember the Titans". Take "3000 Miles to Graceland." Please take them.
No thanks, you keep 'em ;) Sigh. But you keep proving my point. Yes, those are bad movies. You took some bad movies from today, compared them with good movies from yesteryear, and then declared "movies used to be better".
It's nonsense. Why don't you start by comparing apples with apples: Compare good movies of today with good movies of yesteryear. Wouldn't that make a little more sense, hmm?
Boy I hated to post and run but I agree, most of the movies produced each year fit into the 'we're not going to present acutal character development, we're just going to provide the cues that go along with it, and you'll react like we actually did it anyway.'
August 1, 2002| New York Observer
The New Ship of Fools
by Rex Reed
Hollywood is the new Ship of Fools, and with a boring, amateurish, incomprehensible and stupefyingly pretentious pile of swill called Full Frontal, the prosecution rests its case. This is the most deluded piece of crap since Mulholland Drive, only it seems twice as long and half as interesting. Before it crashed and burned, David Lynchs dementedly overrated Mulholland Drive at least held a morbid grip on the imagination. Steven Soderberghs dementedly overrated Full Frontal doesnt even offer a grace period; it falls apart in the first five minutes. Everything after that is a weeks vacation in Kabul.
In the dense array of animated zombies that populate this gimmicked-up Soderbergh drivel, a vast number of performers who shouldve known better prove Hitchcocks theory that actors are nothing more than cows you lead through a fence. While several Hollywood imbeciles prepare for the 40th birthday of a producer named Gus (David Duchovny), scenes unravel from a fictional film called Rendezvous, which has a black star named Calvin (Blair Underwood) and a white star named Francesca (Julia Roberts in a blond wig). As shots from the fake film progress on perfectly clear 35-millimeter film stock with professional lighting and sound, the continuity is interrupted by the digitally recorded "reality" footage of the people behind the scenes while Mr. Soderbergh breaks through the "fourth wall" of cinema. The fake movie looks like a real movie that doesnt give you headaches; the "reality" stuff is so grainy and dark you feel like you need to shine a flashlight on the screen to see whats going on. Sometimes the movie just goes out of focus completely and stays that way for minutes on end, the way photographer Bert Stern used to shoot whiskey bottles to look like a blur of pinwheels. (It made a lot of people sick but didnt sell much Four Roses.) The same kind of pretentious retro assault on the optical nerves makes Full Frontal look like the world immediately following Lasik surgery.
But back to the brain-dead characters. Mopey, monotoned Catherine Keener plays Lee Bright, a 41-year-old "icy bitch" who works as a V.P. of human resources at a large corporation and takes out her sick fantasies on fired employees; on her younger, unmarried sister Linda (Mary McCormack), who works as a hotel masseuse; and on her emasculated husband Carl (David Hyde Pierce), a writer for Los Angeles Magazine and author of the Rendezvous screenplay. In the execrable movie-within-the-movie, Mr. Underwood is also playing a black actor named Nicholas who is being profiled by (and falling in love with) an arrogant magazine interviewer named Catherine (Julia Roberts in a brunette wig). Carl bakes the hashish brownies for Gus birthday, gets fired from his magazine job (presumably for publishing too many nude Brad Pitt covers), and comes home, already so depressed hes ready for a whole bottle of Seconal, to find the dog has eaten the brownies and is now semi-conscious. While hes on the phone with the vet, he finds a letter his wife Lee has written asking for a divorce. Meanwhile, Lee is having sex with the actor Calvin, and Lees sister Linda gets an extra $500 for a 30-second hand job on a client who turns out to be the mysterious Gus. For extra confusion, Mr. Soderbergh keeps cutting to a play called The Sound and the Führer, in which Adolf Hitler returns to Hollywood as a psychotic and much-revered studio executive. Everyone shags off to Gus party (except Hitler, who has to teach a Pilates class), where the guest of honor never shows up because hes upstairs naked with a plastic bag around his head. Director Soderbergh appears from time to time doing what he laughably calls "directing" this garbage with a black box covering his face. Apparently everyone involved is considered such an expert on the subject of self-obsessed Hollywood hypocrites they require no identity. Youre not supposed to ask why Julia Roberts cant tell the difference between Francesca and Catherine, or why she plays them both the same way. If you dont already know that Julia Roberts cant act, then the joke is on you. Everyone else is dreadful, too. David Duchovny gets a massage. Brad Pitt shows up to improvise a few inanities (a homage to Soderberghs Oceans Eleven). Terence Stamp is seen entering and leaving a hotel lobby (a homage to Soderberghs The Limey). Mouthing superficial baloney, none of them has any talent for improvisation, and the incoherent jumble they babble is so annoying it makes you think of pain-management clinics. Editor: "I want this magazine to drink from the bottle!" Petulant movie star Julia Roberts, throwing her lunch on the floor of her trailer: "This arugula is so bitter its like my algebra teacher on bread!" Black actor: "From Sambo to Sidney to Denzel to me, us brothers aint gettin or givin no love!" Insane actor playing Hitler, whose leading lady walks out when she catches him drinking blood: "People who are offended by drinking blood are obviously not drinking any blood, O.K.?" This is the catastrophic result of turning over the contents of the safe to second-rate directors after they win their first Oscar, and moaning when they shovel back their masturbatory fantasies in your face. The most disgusting impersonation in the film is a swinish pig who calls himself Harvey. Since Miramaxs Harvey Weinstein gave these amateurs the money to waste, then allowed them to make fun of him on screen, the in-joke seems like insulting double jeopardy. Maybe hes such a sport that he thinks its funny. I dont. I mean, how many ways can you spell F-O-O-L?
Mr. Soderberghs aim is to convince amateur filmmakers that they can buy any basic camera at any convenience store and make a movie just like Full Frontal. Hes right: With no talent, experience, intelligence or perception, you can make a movie just like this one, as long as youve got pals like Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt, David Duchovny, Catherine Keener and David Hyde Pierce to trash themselves in front of your video camcorder, and Miramax to write checks. The result is career suicide, of course, and any guarantee that the audience will pay money to watch it happen is as big a gamble as WorldCom stock. Ask Mr. Soderbergh to explain this gibberish, and he would probably tell you its supposed to be bad satire. But who wants to spend good money watching neurotic non-people cruise the Internet for sex, eat food sweetened with fruit juice by Wolfgang Puck, and talk in pointless non sequiturs? If this is what Hollywood people are like, no wonder their movies are so lousy
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