[aconservaguy]

Regarding both of the Mill pieces (i think the other one i posted had to do with speech), what's your opinion of his ideas? Do you think they're correct?

[vannrox]

Well, a totally "Free" society would or could be one of Anarchy. However, this would have a very short life. Eventually, a society of sorts would appear. This society would start out with the strongest and most brutal being in control. The resources and everything of importance would be in the hands of this small group of people. Eventually, over a period of time, a structured society would develop. That society would eventually enable some sort of "cross talk" between the two layers.

But in every case, due to the nature of man, there will always be a sort of entropy that forces a society of sorts upon an individual.

In a realist sense, I kind of agree with the authors points to some extent. However, ideally, the individual will always trup the society, as by nature we are of God. Where Society is a construct of man. God's works will always trump that of man.

I guess this is one of the fundamental differences between a Conservative-Libertarion and a Populist-Social-Democrat. One believes in a God that provides a divine spark of understanding to an individual, and the other believes in a gathered society of worthy intellect.

I'll stick with God. I can't prove that he or it exists, but I believe inherently in the worth and promise of the individual. Even though the arugments do make a case for that of society.

[vannrox]

Again, the argument makes a case for situations whereas society may overright the rights of the individual. The cases specified seem to imply when the individual is doing "anti-Godlike" or "Anti-Society" actions. In other words, the worth of an individual is worthy and just only when it confines to the restraints placed on it by society. If that is not devine, then I must argue that who and what does society think it is making this value judgement?

I stand firm. Individual rights are of Godly nature. When one abuses these rights in an un-divine manner, it is up to the community to put the sick animal down.