Posted on 08/03/2002 9:28:36 PM PDT by Timesink
Driver fury over Euro cycle laws
Motorists face soaring premiums for bike crashes
Cyclists v motorists: talk about it here or email us at letters@observer.co.uk
Joanna Walters, transport editor
Sunday August 4, 2002
The Observer
A furious row is set to erupt between Britain and Europe over proposed legislation to make car drivers responsible for all accidents involving cyclists - even when the bike rider has broken the law and is in the wrong.
To the delight of cyclists and the dismay of drivers, a European law is being planned to force motorists to pay compensation and damages in all accidents with cyclists. The measure will put car insurance premiums up by an average £50.
The move prompted a furious response last night from motoring and insurance organisations, which claimed it would encourage 'bicycle guerrillas' who do not obey the Highway Code and frequently shoot red lights.
The proposed law, supposedly designed to harmonise car insurance terms across Europe, contains measures to crack down on drivers in Britain, where officials believe legislation is biased in favour of motorists.
The European Commission document says: 'Motor vehicles cause most accidents. Whoever is responsible, pedestrians and cyclists usually suffer more. In some member states the cyclist is covered by the insurance of the vehicle involved in the accident irrespective of whether the driver is at fault.'
The British Government is expected to oppose the move, arguing that Britain should be allowed to opt out of the legislation provoking a battle between Britain and European officials, who want it to be imposed Europe-wide.
Insurers and motoring groups have vowed to fight 'tooth and nail' to prevent the law being imposed on Britain.
'Drivers are going to have to pay higher premiums to compensate cyclists for their own mistakes,' said Kevin Delaney of the RAC.
'Many cyclists behave as if there were no legal constraints upon them - ignoring traffic lights, signs, one-way streets and pedestrian crossings, travelling as fast as possible with no lights or bell: they are bicycle guerrillas.'
The pro-cycling lobby says the law would 'redress the balance' against 'the most vulnerable road user'. Supporters want motorists to be criminally liable for any acci dent involving a cyclist or pedestrian.
Refusing to condemn cyclists who break the law and are to blame for some accidents, Kevin Mayne, director of national cycling body CTC, said the numbers of aggressive cyclists breaking the law and harassing drivers were hugely exaggerated.
The law could lead to a tougher criminal process for drivers who injure or kill cyclists, he said. 'It's not the person sitting in their steel box who gets killed by the cyclist.'
The proposals have been drawn up by from the Internal Market Directorate of the European Commission and will be debated by the European Parliament in the autumn. If Britain opposes the plan, it would be imposed here with majority support from other EU countries.
European officials believe the move will make the roads safer and encourage more people to get on their bikes.
In Britain, drivers are presumed innocent and not liable for compensation unless the cyclist can prove negligence. But in France, Belgium, Scandinavia, Holland and Germany, drivers are almost always liable and must pay compensation from their insurance policies.
Cycling in Britain now accounts for less than 2 per cent of all journeys undertaken each year, compared with 80 per cent of journeys by car. Britons made an average of 16 trips per person by bike last year, compared with 21 in 1991.
The RAC claimed insurance premiums could jump by 10 per cent, adding about £50 to the price of the average comprehensive motor policy.
Mayne said: 'We expect a ferocious fight from the motor and insurance industries.'
The Old World rots.
As far as teh rest of us are concerned, always remember to be careful what you wish for...you might just get it!
That's the real agenda here.
I say screw the Europeans. I'll take my Dodge Ram pickup over a bicycle any time. I don't have to wear fag costume to operate it.
I don't have to wear a fag costume to operate it.
'Buildings, lamp posts, pets, curbs, motor vehicles, walls and pavement cause most accidents. Whoever is responsible, pedestrians and cyclists usually suffer more.'
Just as braindead and leftist stoopid either way.
Oh, you think so?
Europe is the living incarnation of "go along to get along". They even went along with the Germans and Naziism, surrendering en masse - and then helping round up the Jews among them - so they could "get along" with Hitler.
You think they're going to revolt over a little thing like Socialist tyranny that rules their entire lives?
Once again, I am impelled to wonder if we wouldn't have been better off in the long run to have left them to be ground into dust under the heel of Hitler's boot, until such time as we had prepared the necessary holocaust to turn Hitler, and his Europe (and I include England as well, considering their lack of concern for individual freedom) into a radioactive wasteland.
Maybe *that* would have changed their attitudes. Maybe *then* the survivors would have learned to appreciate their freedom...
I asked my Dad about this, and he said this was a way they could get some quick money, because of the way Mexican traffic and insurance laws worked (and the local police). It was then that I realized the kids were probably sizing up who to run into as they caromed across the streets. We were driving an old junker at the time, so I guess we didn't qualify for an "incident".
Looks like Europe is trying to become more like Mexico.
Imal
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