Judge orders names of all detainees in 9/11 probe released

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[Brian Mosely]

MSNBC NEWS BULLETIN Judge orders names released All detainees in 9/11 probe Details to come ...

[Looking for Diogenes]

What is the Constitutional principle here?

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

[carenot]

She also stopped enforcement of Bush's Executive Order to enforce the Beck decision.

What was the Beck decision?

Was it about that Beck guy the BATF burned to death August 31, 1901?

[exodus]

To: Brian Mosely
“…A Pakistani kid from Peshawar who pumps my gas sometimes was picked and released. He didn't enjoy the experience, but he certainly wasn't treated badly and seems no worse for the experience.”
# 12 by swarthyguy

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What if that innocent Pakistani had disappeared? What could his family have done about it?

I hate being forced to play the “race card.”

See how this sounds, swarthyguy:

“…A black kid from Alabama who pumps my gas sometimes was picked up and released. He didn't enjoy the experience, but he certainly wasn't treated badly and seems no worse for the experience.”

[TheRedSoxWinThePennant]

MOTHER F$#$ING LIBERALS

[carenot]

This is a F*CKING outrage. This POS judge must be removed from the bench ASAP. Another POS judge making law from the bench.

Makin' law? Seems to me she is trying to uphold the Constitution.

[tomahawk]

Kessler largely limited her ruling to the government's obligations under the federal Freedom of Information Act. NOT the VIth Amendment. This is a BS ruling by a liberal freak judge.

[carenot]

Bias? Naaaaahhh! Just move on.

That is what President Bush said.

[tomahawk]

She ruled based on the freaking Freedom of Information Act, not the U.S. Constitution, according to the news articles I've read. I will need to read the ruling to verify, but based on the news accounts of her "reasoning", it's a ludicrous ruling.

[hchutch]

No, this was about workers who wished to have the portion of union dues that is used for political activity refunded to them. The unions sued, got it in front of her, and she tossed the order.

[scannell]

I have been reading your posts on this matter and concluded that I disagree and think you just stretch to compromise the interest of the US, but further conclude that it is your right. This post makes me think you are just plain dumb. Anyone that would ask the question How can having the government admit that they’ve arrested someone “tip off” anyone? must be joking or just plain naive. I refuse to believe that you could be so stupid, regardless of your left leaning, to truely find this proposition so puzzling. Maybe this is the reason why the left is so f****d up in their common sense.

[tomahawk]

The ruling "impedes one of the most important federal law enforcement investigations in history, harms our efforts to bring to justice those responsible for the heinous attacks of Sept. 11, and increases the risk of future terrorist threats to our nation," said Robert McCallum, assistant attorney general for civil rights.

I stand by Ashcroft, not freak judge Kessler.

[Glenn]

She ruled based on the freaking Freedom of Information Act, not the U.S. Constitution

I get so confused hanging out at FreeRepublic. Those of you who assert some right of the government to operate in secret are too trusting. You forget it may be you next. We'd hear squealing them, I am sure. This judge made the right decision. The government has no business operating in the United States as a spook entity. Period.

[tomahawk]

I have just skimmed this "judge"'s ruling, and it is indeed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) case, NOT a Sixth Amendment case. The judge does not deem the names of the detainees to fall within any exemption to the FOIA. I am quite confident she will be overturned and bitch-slapped. She needs to be removed from the bench.

[exodus]

To: exodus
If you think you live in a tyranny, practice your alias and exodus from the land of tyranny.
# 76 by tomahawk

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You haven’t read the Patriot Act, tomahawk.

Anybody can be classified as a “terrorist,” on nothing more than the word of a government agent. On suspicion, not proof, not even evidence. Anyone can be arrested secretly, even if that person is a citizen, even if that person isn’t an Arab.

Tell me, tomahawk, was Bill Clinton’s actions something you consider legal? If not, the fact that he got away with his actions, and is even honored by our President Bush, is evidence that we do not live in a nation ruled by law. A nation not ruled by law is a tyranny.

Secret arrests, secret prisons, and secret executions would also be evidence of a tyranny.

Citizens organized by their government to spy on their neighbors would be evidence of tyranny.

That's enough for now.

And no, I will not "exodus" my nation. I wouldn't leave if my home was broken into, either. I'll stay and help the invader on his way.

[tomahawk]

Try the ACLU.

[carenot]

If you think you live in a tyranny, practice your alias and exodus from the land of tyranny.

Whew! I hope exodus isn't an African/American.

exodus might not like you telling him to leave the country.

He may rather stay and fight what is happening to our country.

Do you think he should "go along, to get along"?

[swarthyguy]

You misunderstand me at least. The releasing of names will impeded current investigations.

The SaudiIslamic Lobby, their Fronts in the US, like CAIR, AMC etc will jump on this chance to sue the government.

BTW, Everything's about money.

[carenot]

They have been detained for acting in concert with the enemy.

How do we know? They haven't been charged with anything.

[swarthyguy]

"What if that innocent Pakistani had disappeared? "

He did for a few weeks and then he was back. His family; absolutely nothing.

Don't play the race card if you hate it so.

"“…A white kid from Alabama who pumps my gas sometimes was picked up and released. He didn't enjoy the experience, but he certainly wasn't treated badly and seems no worse for the experience.”

[tomahawk]

You're right, Exodus, I haven't read the Patriot Act, and I should. I basically trust Bush and Ashcroft and know they are not out to turn this nation into a tyranny. But since the law will be around after they leave, I should become familiar with it, and it can be (and is being) challenged in court. I also know Kessler is a liberal freak judge and she ruled in this case under the Freedom of Information Act, not any U.S. Constitutional claim.