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SBI - Aside from being a former police officer, I'm an attorney. I'm also a martial arts instructor. I've seen your discussions about your attorney and liability stemming from the use of this product. You ought to take him some of the comments on this thread - as he hasn't thought any of the liability through. The average person will die using your product. So will trained individuals. For support I offer a personal experience, and the lessons you can learn from it. Read on.

While I was in law school I worked as a doorman at a local nightclub with some other BB's from my school. One night a drunken girl who was pissed at her boyfriend (he was a bar back IIRC) got barred by the manager. She got into a screaming match with him at the rear entrance and came at him with a pocket knife. We were all standing in a triangle with her to my left and the manager to my right - each about 3 feet apart. There was a wooden privacy fence to my rear about 1 foot behind me, the path we were standing on was about 3 feet across and on the other side was some shrubbery...it was a tight area with little room to manuever. One second she was yelling, the next second she had a knife...the next second she was face first against the fence and I had her in a control hold. (left arm up behind her back and her right hand pinned against the fence)

The manager was as surprised as the girl and I were. He said one second she was coming at him and the next she wasn't there. After we disarmed her and sent her on her way I had some time to think. She came past me and I was able to grab her knife hand and use her momentum to swing her around into the fence. (and get her other hand in a modified chicken wing) I didn't remember doing any of this and it wasn't a conscious thought of what techniques to use, either. It was only after things calmed down that I could replay the event in my mind's eye.

The moral is that the manager would have been headed to the hospital with multiple stab wounds had I not been there - and had I not been studying martial arts for the previous 12 years which allowed my training to override and control my reactions. The reaction time for the average person at three feet would be too slow to process the event to prevent the first or second blow.

What does this have to do with your product? I was keyed up and alert for problems - but never really expected her to attack this guy, let alone use an edged weapon. It took twelve years of training to develop an unconscious response on my part that was appropriate to the situation and overrode the natural "fight or flight" reaction. How will an untrained person react? How will a trained person react if not prepared mentally for a confrontation. Further, you want people to place a product in their personal defense weapon that will render said weapon inoperable if the trigger is depressed before racking the slide twice. This requires an individual under the stress of an armed confrontation to override the natural impulse to squeeze the trigger as soon as possible. You want this individual who is under extreme stress to remember to do something unthinkable in the face of an armed assailant: unload their weapon twice! That's right. You want them to rack the slide twice - and action associated in the brain with unloading a weapon. (What do you do to make sure a semi-auto is unloaded? You rack the slide 3 or 4 times.) The basic premise(s) of your product are flawed. Period.

Even given my firearms and other training, I am not putting anything in my firearms that renders them inoperable if I mess up. At 000darkhundred I'm going to be groggy and not at 100%. If confronted with an armed attacker I'm going to aim and fire as trained...I won't be thinking about racking the slide twice. I've had training that the average person has not. I am not comfortable trusting to that training in the middle of the night - hell it would take years to re-train me to rack the slide twice before firing. If I'm not comfortable, why should you or anyone else think that the average person will be?

Further, every gun is a loaded gun until I determine it isn't. If I don't see that the slide is locked open than the gun is loaded. That's been drilled into me since I was old enough to understand the concept. At 000darkhundred when I need my firearm and I see it sitting there without a trigger lock or a bright cable through the barrel my mind is going to register a firearm in battery and ready to fire...and this product will only get me and mine killed.

If serious, trained individuals have issues with the product and the basic concept behind it, than you better damn well take notice - because like smart guns, the average moron that doesn't know d#ck about firearms will think this product removes all the safety issues and wind up getting someone killed by relying on it. Yeah, that's right. Smart Guns. Another moronic idea. I was present for the testimony for and against MD's assinine bill. The representative from Berretta testified that their market research showed an untapped market that would increase their sales by half of their current volume - and they were ignoring it because their market research showed that approximately 95% of this untapped market had one thing in common - they didn't own firearms and didn't have any safety training. It also showed that these people believed that a smart gun was foolproof and did not need to worry about leaving it lying around loaded. Berretta testified that they could not sell firearms to such a market and pleaded with the committee not to pass the bill as it would cause more deaths than it would save.

So will your product.

Thus endeth the sermon.

Thank you for taking the time to educate me. I still believe there is a market for this. With any luck I can persuade some to take a firearms safety course and go to a gun range and get to know their weapon.

It is not for all people and all situations, nothing is. One of the things that urged me on are the # of experts that when I stated working on this told me it was a good thing. They all urged me on.

It has its weakneses but I don;t know of a device made that is perfect for every occasion. My thinking was that it would make guns safer.

I have done a lot of research on Homes that have a loaded gun and kids.The studies are all over the internet. With 1.4 million homes haveing loaded guns that have no safety devices on them and 40% of them have kids!! I think we can all agree that that is an accident waiting to happen.

One of the points that a lot of people have talked about is the intruder in the middle of the night. OK when the firearm is next to your person why not take the SB out but if you store it or are not near it load one in. IF you have kids and no other safety device around this would be an improvement

The device to disable the SB after its been fired looks just like the cleaning rod that you use to clean you gun with and it forces the locking pin back inside the SB and it releaves the pressure on the plastic that was forced inside the chamber. So far it has not taken any more time to disable the safety bullet when it was fired than it would to unlock any other safety device.

This is not for adults this is for kids. Any kid that finds their parents gun and pulls the trigger, the gun locks up and no new lethal round can be inserted.

You and I know the rules but thousands of people don't. So whats the answer? If we don;t find one some will find one for us. They won;t be able to take away the guns but they will try to do something like make it manditory to have gun locks on our guns all the time.

Do me a favor and come up with something you think is better than this. That allows almost instant acces to your gun and yet a level of protection. I'll tell you how to patent it youself and then I can sit back and blast it to hell. :)

Thanks again for the feedback its exactly what I need

Mike Worley Safety bullet inventor

see the guy bitching about my spelling hell he should see the way I dress!

Thank you for the sermon.

This is not for everyone, never will be. If you have your gun on you why would anyone need a safety device other than the safety on the gun. As you have stated that what most people need in a near death situation is Martial Arts training. Problem is most people don't know Karatee. Your situation was that you were hired to be a bouncer and you should have been able to do your job. What does that have to do with a safety device. Would you have used a gun safe, how about a trigger lock, how about any of the other 100 safety devices that are out there? No you would not have used any it is rediculous to even think that anyone that has a gun on their person needs a safety device.

Its great that you know Karatee it saved a few people from getting hurt. Now what if the guy that attacked you knew it also and was better than you? Then what. You were lucky you saw it coming. I used to fight full contact and had the snot knocked out of me in a fight by a guy who was a lot faster than I ever hoped to be. There is always someone better.

Your other statement of it being 0000 in the AM and an intruder breaks in now what. Has that ever happened to you? It has to me my senses came on and I was alert as I could have been. I racked my shotgun and said if your here when I get there your dead. He said holly shit he has a shotgun and went screaming out the door. If my gun had been in a safe it would have taken me a few minutes to unlock the lock or find the key to unlock the lock or get a flashlight to punch in the code then load my gun. Getting the picture. Cop or no cop with any safety device its going to take some time to get your firearm ready. With the safety bullet all you have to do is cycle the action and the gun is ready. How long does that take you? It takes me less than a second. Say you do mistakenly fire the gun with the safety bullet in place it still takes less to unjam it than if you had any other safety device. But hey you know karatee!! Go have some fun!

You brought up smart guns. A lot of people are trying anything they can to make guns safer. A lot of very smart people. Why, because anyone that is pro gun wants to make them as safe as possible. I personally believe that accidental shootings are the cancer to the pro gun community. My invention goes a long way for helping in the cure. The other thing is I am doing something other than bitching about everybody else.

If you are so bright and know so very much what have YOU come up with? Show me anything that you think is a good idea and then go promote it. Let's work together on stopping accidental shooting. If you gave as much energy as you have spent in blasting others for trying to make a differance and instead came up with something that would stop accidental shooting maybe we could get somewhere.

Do I hear an AYE MEN

Mike Worley inventor of the Safety Bullet