Zon: Each person's moral compass points north. North being the right to their own life and by extension, right to their own property. That's why by comparison there is a much smaller ratio of violent crimes and fraud than crimes of vice. 86
Poppycock. There are fewer violent crimes because they are harder to conceal. Corpses are far more conspicious than bad checks. 89
Zon: Following your logic if there was an easy way to hide dead bodies leaving no trace back to the murderer then there would be as many murderers as people that smoke pot. 127
You betcha. Examples? Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Buchenwald, etc, etc.
Perhaps you don't live in the United States. I was making reference only to United States -- a first world developed country. What is your point of using third world examples run by some of the worst governments in the world -- the opposite of U.S. governments?
The Russian militia are LEO's. In what time period and in what nations was this study conducted?
The study was conducted in United States prisons during the 1990s. BTW, you injected Russian militia into the discussion -- do you have a problem with me repeating your words? I don't live in Russia and I'm not discussing the plight of Russians. I live in the United States and I'm discussing the plight of U.S. citizens.
Because we were making general statements about the nature of humans and the nature of governments.
There are glaringly obvious counter-examples that contradict your assertions regarding murder vs. drug use.
I was making reference only to United States -- a first world developed country.
My example of Buchenwald refered to a smug, first world country. If Buchenwald can happen in the land of Goethe and Bach, you shouldn't kid yourself about what might happen in the land of Jefferson and Twain.
Following your logic if there was an easy way to hide dead bodies leaving no trace back to the murderer then there would be as many murderers as people that smoke pot.
As I said, its purely a matter of consequences.
You can law with consequences or law without consequences (8 years is the average America punishment for murder these days, far lower than say the Icelandic Vikings Anarcho-Capitalist price).