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To: Joe Brower
The Police are commissioned to apprehend criminal suspects who are American citizens with Constitutional Rights, and who are innocent until proven guilty.

The Military exists to close with and destroy with the enemy without compunction or remorse.

And the Border Patrol exists to pretend that we are defending our borders. In almost every country in the world, Armies secure land borders. What makes us so stupid?

5 posted on 08/01/2002 2:34:21 PM PDT by arm958
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To: arm958
The Police are commissioned to apprehend criminal suspects who are American citizens with Constitutional Rights, and who are innocent until proven guilty. The Military exists to close with and destroy with the enemy without compunction or remorse. And the Border Patrol exists to pretend that we are defending our borders. In almost every country in the world, Armies secure land borders. What makes us so stupid?

And after the next major terror event inside CONUS ... this will all be moot...our failure to profile, to arm pilots, to have opened our borders to such scum ...and to have given away our citizenship for peanuts...... are dirty birds comin home to roost.. Put the military on the border and secure it.....

6 posted on 08/01/2002 2:58:19 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: arm958; joesnuffy
What makes us so stupid?

Nothing stupid about it -- it's deliberate. The same laws that make us the most free nation on the face of the Earth (it's all relative, I know) are why we do not want to be like "other countries". Having lived on the San Diego/Mexico border for almost twenty years, I've reached the following conclusions:

The Border Patrol/INS are more than capable with dealing with the hordes of illegal aliens pouring over our Southern border -- if politicians and left-wing "go-gooders" would let them. But no -- we have populists who tie the Border Patrol's hands behind their backs with innumerable regulations as to what they can do, where and why; keeping them undermanned, while at the same time offering illegals food, shelter, medical services and welfare paid for by the U.S. taxpayer. For the last 20+ years, it's been the equivalent of throwing gasoline on a fire while restraining the fire crews.

So the problem grows and grows, until at last it becomes so prevalent, threatening and impossible to ignore that suddenly radically extremist measures "must be called for". I'm sure you've heard of the Hegelian Dialectic. Well, here it is in actual practice.

Troops on the border? How would you define the limits of their mission? What would be their rules of engagement? What would your criteria be for their eventual stand-down? How will you handle the first "international incident" and subsequent U.N.-sponsored "human rights violations" when our troops are fired upon and kill some Mexican nationals?

No, the real solution is beef up the Border Patrol, increase their ranks, remove the shackles from their hands, and stop inviting the illegals to come and stay with all the taxpayer-funded goods and services they and their families could ever want. Heavily penalize Americans who employ them. If you cut off the handouts and the demands for their services, they would cease to have most of the reason for their invasion.

7 posted on 08/02/2002 4:45:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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