U.S. report confirms Saudi-Pakistan nuke contacts

U.S. officials have confirmed reports that senior Saudi officials have discussed the prospect of nuclear weapons cooperation with Pakistan.

A U.S. report published in the State Department's strategic journal cited Saudi interest and stressed that the Saudi kingdom does not have nuclear weapons, Middle East Newsline reported.

"Saudi Arabia does not have weapons of mass destruction," the report, authored by former Pentagon official Anthony Cordesman, said. "It did, however, buy long-range CSS-2 ballistic missiles from China. Very senior Saudi officials have held conversations with officials involved in the Pakistani nuclear program, and possibly with similar officials in other countries."

The report appears in the latest issue of the State Department's "U.S. Foreign Policy Agenda." The journal was published on the department's web site and focused on the topic "Weapons of Mass Destruction: The New Strategic Framework." U.S. officials said Saudi leaders have also discussed the procurement of new Pakistani intermediate-range missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. They said Saudi officials were invited to tour Pakistan's nuclear weapons facilities and that no sale has been concluded.

The report by Cordesman, a senior fellow of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, also supports assertions that Egypt has been developing an intermediate-range missile based on North Korea's No-Dong. Congress has been told that Egypt obtained 24 No-Dong missiles over the last year.

The State Department publication said Egypt has "Scud missiles and is seeking to create extended-range Scud missiles similar to North Korean designs. Has sought to develop longer-range missiles in the past."

Pandoras Box revisited.

Once upon a tiome people refered to the whole nuclear equation as a Pandoras Box. Open it and destruction will follow never to be put back in. For a time it seemed that maybe all that hype would go away. I mean the cold war ended and the SOviet Union collapsed. The problem is that technology can not be stopped an unfortunately the Pnadoras Box analogy is very apt. We can not put the nuclear weapon back in the closet. It has ALWAYS been a matter of time until these other countries got there hands on them.

Unfortunately the Islamic world is getting them. It was unavoidable and unfortunate but they have them...and more are getting them. Worse, the radical extremists who want to see the rebirth of an Islamic Empire and continue their fourteen hundred year old war of conquest to spread Islam across the glolbe are relatively in control...ebetted by lunatic tyrants like Saddam.

But of course according to the Democrats the arms race is over and we should have no fear of disarming our nukes and we CERTAINLY dont need a missle defense.

I think in the end the only solution is a return to the detente of mutually assured annihilation. A reemergance of the arms race and the continuation of the 20 year old search for an effective nuclear shield. In the end it is the only thing that can save us from the lunatics of the world. I know some of you think we should wipe them out...possibly but not exactly practical. Some others of you think that mutually assured annihilation wouldnt work because in the end the dont care if they die...to that I say hogwash. You dont see there leaders out blowing themselves up in the name of Allah. The ones with the power are secular or at least cognizant of their power. The fact is that you have to be somewhat self absorbed/self oriented with a touch of meglomania about you to seek and gather power about you. Even "fanatical mullahs" are not imune to the human reality of power. The ones in control over their dont want to die...they just want other to die. Assuring them of there immediate and permanent death should they use nukes against us will I garantee you be a deterant. Unfortunately that means we have to crack down and stop being nice. we have to stop playing this moral equvilancey game and make it clear in no uncertain terms that we will destroy them utterly and completely if a nuke ever goes off.

That is important. Right now we are on a one way street leading to a nuke going off in our country. The terrorists states like Iran and Iraq, The PA and Syria have learned that the best way for them to operate is to use terrorists to run clandestine operations which they can then publicaly dissavow. They do this over and over againa and again and every time they get away with it it encoruages them more. Eventually they are going to use a WOMD thinking that all we will do is hunt down a few paltry terrorists and that will be the end of that. We must STOP SENDING THAT MESSAGE. We need to say loud and clear that terrorist nations will be held accountable under penalty of the harshest judgment and punishment. Only that will give us any chance of avoiding the eventual nuclear nightmare. Closiing our eyes and hoping that they dont get their hands on nukes brings to mind a saying of my grandfathers..."wish in one hand and pour water in the other...see which one fills up first."

This Reminds me of a War Simulation of this...

From what I recollect, the simulation was based up the condition that a radical Arab State obtained a Nuclear Weapon. Once they counry obtained the weapon, only two outcomes were possible. Either A. The United States took no overt action, and waited until the nuclear device was used against the United States, or B. The United States attacked the country with the Weapon to destry the weapon capability.

Both cases resulted in a major nuclear engagement between the United States and a group of Arab states in union with another major superpower.

I see no other alternative solution here.

A Made-for-TV Movie titled "By Dawns Early Light" was derived from one of the simulations.

flamefront,

TX for the link.

Of course; it's not "Islam;" it's socialism ... which is what I've been saying all along --- Fascist Islamism is a front for socialism, and the trouble Israel is in, is because too many "Jews in Name Only" there and here (and abroad) are also a front for socialism (see David Horowitz's many accounts).

They, said socialists, prefer to thwart Israel's defense, in the name of a pissing contest to prove that they love peace more than the other guy: blessed are the peacemakers, for they provide network news airtime for advertisers for the companies in which the "socialists with money" are invested.

While what we have is a civil war between the Islamic and Jewish factions of socialism, who, behind the scenes agree on socialist principles: such as the destruction of individual rights, but then as fundamental frauds with [no] respect to God, they bicker over which direction they will say so-called prayers, er, that is ... homage to the ruling class.

No doubt that Mohammed established Islam for the disenfranchised; and of course the Jews' Diaspora cum Disenfranchisement is the broken record of the centuries playing the strains of "You're anti-Semitic!" --- proving to be just another battle hymn of socialism's long march.

Interesting connection which you make, there, that the so-called hate (in Saudi Arabia) toward us, is based upon the peoples' resentment of, from their view, our "support" for their dictators. (If I read your remarks, correctly.)

Somewhat similar to the "old" problem in Central and South America where Cuban-supported socialists have risen over the last decades, supposedly "to throw off their oppressors" who have been alleged by, for example, The New York Times, to be supported by the U.S.

Begs the question, If the devil you know happens, in your view, to be the U.S., do you really want to unload "him" in exchange for the devil you don't know ... given that the new "oppressor" is historically socialist, and in the extreme part of that "belief system?"

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