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To: Scourge of God
I honestly believe that the social costs, in dollars, of legalized marijuana would equal those of alcohol: $40 billion a year. (That number from memory.)

By what data do you use to draw these conclusions, and that figure? You seem to be assuming that pot use would shoot up DRAMATICALLY if pot was legalized. Do you really believe people are baseless savages who are merely held in check by force of law alone?

By what data do you use to make this hypothesis? (I'm just trying to understand your logic process here.) Given that alcohol seems to cause MORE problems than pot, why not ban the former, and legalize the latter? If re-legalizing alcohol didn't destroy the Republic, why do you make such dire preductions for marijuana?

If nothing else, would you at least agree that a Federal War on Drugs is a violation of the 10th Amendment, and that the issue should be decided upon by the individual States? If you believe that the Federal Government has the power to do what it does with the WoD right now, please point out to me in the Constitution granting this power to the Fed.

At least we agree more than we disagree. However, I think the only way you are going to reduce demand is through honest education. You tell people what substance X will do to them, and all the consequences of taking substance X. And if some idiot gets drunk and causes a DUI, throw the book good and hard at him. It's not like he didn't get fair warning...

Trust me, we lose far, far more money (billions upon billions) with smoking, drinking, and fatty foods. Why aren't you championing the illegalization of alcohol, smoking, and fatty foods?
557 posted on 08/02/2002 10:15:14 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: WyldKard
By what data do you use to draw these conclusions, and that figure? You seem to be assuming that pot use would shoot up DRAMATICALLY if pot was legalized. Do you really believe people are baseless savages who are merely held in check by force of law alone?

Ok, then how about: within ten years of national pot legalization, the social costs of marijuana consumption would equal those of alcohol. As for your last sentence in the above paragraph, you could make a good case for that being at least somewhat true.

By what data do you use to make this hypothesis? (I'm just trying to understand your logic process here.) Given that alcohol seems to cause MORE problems than pot, why not ban the former, and legalize the latter? If re-legalizing alcohol didn't destroy the Republic, why do you make such dire preductions for marijuana?

Banning booze would be stupid. People have always consumed it, going back to the beginning of recorded history. I don't imbibe, but I realize that it's a big human thing to get drunk. So be it. That is not an argument to legalize pot.

The republic will take care of itself: even Bill Clinton's best efforts to destroy us seem to be coming up short. I do not want to pay the costs for other people's inebriation. And I will if pot is legalized. If I have to pay, then I'd like the satisfaction of knowing the bastards robbing my money are in jail.

If nothing else, would you at least agree that a Federal War on Drugs is a violation of the 10th Amendment, and that the issue should be decided upon by the individual States? If you believe that the Federal Government has the power to do what it does with the WoD right now, please point out to me in the Constitution granting this power to the Fed.

I am ashamed to admit I don't know what the tenth is. However, I do whole-heartedly, without hesitation, embrace the belief that the issue, drug abuse, should be decided and handled by individual states. As nearly every single issue should.

Trust me, we lose far, far more money (billions upon billions) with smoking, drinking, and fatty foods. Why aren't you championing the illegalization of alcohol, smoking, and fatty foods?

Those things cost me money as well, I suppose. However, I imbibe in fatty foods, and I do so of my own free will. And they don't cloud my judgment or impair my reaction time. And I don't smoke, but smokers have the right to smoke. I just wish I didn't have to pay for the mofo's medical bills.

564 posted on 08/02/2002 10:26:11 AM PDT by Scourge of God
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To: WyldKard
If pot was legalized, you'd probably see usage go up from 5% that use it now to close to the 35% that have tried it.

Yes, alot of those people most likely stopped, because it was illegal.
667 posted on 08/02/2002 1:58:24 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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