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To: sweet_diane

I simply cannot believe that any self respecting Conservative can sit idly by while companies pass out Dixie cups for random drug testing.

It's a mater of free association. A contract between an employer and an employee. If one or both don't like the contract they are free to refuse and seek another employer or employee. I hope you haven't implied that the government should force the employer to hire a person or force the employer to refuse to hire a person. next thing you know the government will be forcing people into prison because they used drugs. Oh that's right, the government already does that.

Discrimination laws are political agenda laws.

Main Street's brick and mortar businesses are private property  For if they were public the police wouldn't need a search warrant. Police need warrants only for private property. If a private property owner decides he wants to invite strangers in from the street he can do that and the guest must follow the property owner's rules.

What's wrong with this picture?

Read the Fourth Amendment. Sheesh, we can't even trust our "employees" -- government officials -- to let them into our homes and businesses without a search warrant if we don't want to let them in. But somehow a business is forced to trust a total stranger with an open door policy. A person/business owner can refuse to allow a government agent -- his servant -- access to his property but not a total stranger! And get this, it is the government -- the servant -- that can't be trusted that is telling property owners -- the master -- that they must trust total strangers.

Discrimination laws must be repealed. And hold accountable the members of congress that created discrimination laws at the cost of violating property owners private property rights.

282 posted on 08/01/2002 9:55:01 AM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon
A contract between an employer and an employee. If one or both don't like the contract they are free to refuse and seek another employer or employee.

Though I agree with you on 99% of your posts ... I do not agree with the above. Granted that the BoR does not mention the "right to privacy" BUT it does have that little ( and mostly forgotten) thing about unreasonable search and seizure. I don't beleive that a company should be able to demand an employee to check their God given rights at the company door. The contract between an employer and employee is one of a business nature and not one of servitude. The statement that someone can go somewhere else to work fails when ALL employers require employees to "check their rights" at the door because no one is stopping them from doing so.

287 posted on 08/01/2002 10:02:36 AM PDT by clamper1797
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To: Zon
"A contract between an employer and an employee. If one or both don't like the contract they are free to refuse and seek another employer or employee."

You are right. I signed that piece of paper giving them right to examine my urine in their biased test and am free to leave. It's hard for me to not refuse the test and quit, letting them know exactly why. If I ever do do that, you can believe I'll leave them their Dixie cup full to ease their curiosity.

I do know that one of the main reasons the company I work for does random testing is to lower insurance premiums.

Seems to me the 'big picture' keeps getting bigger and bigger.

290 posted on 08/01/2002 10:06:24 AM PDT by sweet_diane
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