[Luis Gonzalez]

Bring down the welfare State, and you eliminate the problem.

[goldstategop]

Agreed. It just sickens me to my stomach to hear some "conservative" congresscritters like Orrin Hatch and Chris Cannon want to add more to the gravy train instead of getting rid of it to begin with.

[FITZ]

Bring down the welfare State, and you eliminate the problem.

That's true. It's going to get harder and harder since there are more people who feel they depend on those programs.