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Murder Number 5 at Fort Bragg
Fox News ^ | July 31, 2002

Posted on 07/31/2002 1:03:27 PM PDT by Silas

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bragg; murder; northcarolina
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1 posted on 07/31/2002 1:03:27 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Silas
After Delta Force showed their true colors at Waco, I concluded we should fear our elite troops. But as it turned out, it was their own families that had something to fear.
2 posted on 07/31/2002 1:06:33 PM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
This article is about the wife shooting the husband (a change from the previous four murders).
3 posted on 07/31/2002 1:09:57 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
All of this is very strange. Makes you wonder what is going on. I have not even heard mention of these killings on local news. I have heard about it on cable news, though.
4 posted on 07/31/2002 1:11:21 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
In the old days we would say "there's the old army, the new army, and this effing thing." What the hell is happening? The army started going bad when they gave enlisted men married housing. RA all the way.
5 posted on 07/31/2002 1:13:03 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: Silas
They don't call it "Fayett-Nam" for nothing.
6 posted on 07/31/2002 1:21:05 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: gaspar
I remember being frightened when Army Captain (Dr) Jeff McDonald killed his wife and children when my husband was in Vietnam. Many years ago while we were stationed in Germany, I also knew a well-liked, respected Sergeant who killed his girlfriend because she was going to tell his wife about them. He's still in Leavenworth. I've known these acts of murder and maybe ten others during my long association with the military. What's strange about the Ft Bragg incidents is that they're all there....no other posts. Although, there was a Colonel who killed his wife a few months ago while he was a student at the War College. There are probably more but the media didn't link them. They think they've got some sort of conspiracy right now.
7 posted on 07/31/2002 1:47:33 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: FryingPan101
No one seems to have, so I'll say it ...

Jacob's Ladder.

8 posted on 07/31/2002 2:00:50 PM PDT by knarf
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To: Silas; knarf; FryingPan101; Gunrunner2; gaspar; hsmomx3; JohnGalt
RELATED THREAD:
Fort Bragg Major Murdered In Fayetteville Home

Check out the local news links (posted by me today) at #57.

9 posted on 07/31/2002 2:06:31 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: gaspar
You gotta be kidding. The enlisted men were friends of the officers wives on a regular basis. Unregular Air force.
10 posted on 07/31/2002 2:09:49 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Silas
Maybe we're forgetting that there's something like 1.2 million people in the armed forces, and many of them have just gotten back from a war zone after 6-8 months of combat. So, stress x abscence x lots of people may equal a seeming "trend" that really doesn't exist. IMHO.
11 posted on 07/31/2002 2:42:32 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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Gaspar said: The army started going bad when they gave enlisted men married housing.

Forgive me while I react negatively. I threw away a career in the AF after 8 yrs because of jerk-wad officers with the attitude that their degree in basket weaving made them a better class of human than me. Your comment strikes a nerve. I suppose you probably would have said (or depending on your age--actually said) the same about the n!ggerz too. The enlisted men carry the services. Especially in the Army where they are the ones getting their asses shot off while the officers sit in the mess tent. They do not deserve the kind of second-class treatment your comment suggests. FYI, at my base the enlisted and officers had separate (segregated) housing areas. Still that way today. The holier-than-thou officers need not even acknowledge that they have enlisted members living on the base unless they choose to.

Cynicom said: The enlisted men were friends of the officers wives on a regular basis.

I know I was. And a couple of the female pilots too. They liked that "unsophisticated, eat-with-their-hands kind of guy" sometimes. All that plastic, political BS they have to go through to get, or to keep getting their husbands, promoted wears on them. Sometimes they just needed a BANG. It didn't matter to them if I lived on base, off base or in the singles dorm. I was "friends" with them from all 3 locales. What mattered to them was that I was a real person. Not a jock with a control stick up my ass. And I treated her like a real person and not a necessary prop for my career.
Enlisted puke Air Force.

12 posted on 07/31/2002 2:45:07 PM PDT by NerdDad
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To: knarf
You may be on to something with that...

...or else you're on something.

Notforprophet

13 posted on 07/31/2002 3:08:18 PM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: hsmomx3
All of this is very strange. Makes you wonder what is going on.

You wouldn't wonder if you knew the changes that have gone on in Special Forces candidate selection.  Too many officers need that "check the block" on their evaluations to turn away the unstable students. 

Nowadays, its all about quantity instead of quality in the student output at the Special Warfare Center.

14 posted on 07/31/2002 3:14:21 PM PDT by Dark Watch
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To: hsmomx3
Instapundit.com has been linking to different sites that seem to be hinting that it's all some connected web of infidelities.
15 posted on 07/31/2002 3:15:24 PM PDT by Paid4This
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To: NerdDad
You go ND.
Must have struck a raw nerve, eh? ;^)
16 posted on 07/31/2002 3:18:36 PM PDT by dtel
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To: Silas
What is going on? This is getting beyond strictly random acts.
17 posted on 07/31/2002 3:25:11 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Gunrunner2
When I was there, they called it Fatalberg.

Between the 82nd and SpecForces, there has always been "domestic" problems. I can remember certain "family feuds" that would make your skin crawl.

18 posted on 07/31/2002 3:38:02 PM PDT by XGMan
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To: NerdDad
If an enlisted man in the combat arms wants to get married then get the hell out of the Army and find a new career. You may not like the advice, but it worked damned well in the old army.
19 posted on 07/31/2002 8:26:34 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Correction SIR! What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you apply it to enlisteds it applies equally well to officers. Despite all the perks you seem to think officers deserve over enlisted men, I don't believe the Army issues wives to officers either. Buy yourself a clue. The services now allow all races, creeds, colors, sexes, and sexual preferences. They even allow their enlisted members to be married. That page does not turn back. Attempting to do so would create an exodus greater than that from Egypt a couple thousand years ago. Golly, then the officers might have to put down their coffee cups and take up combat arms themselves instead of sending out their uneducated oaf enlisteds to be slaughtered.

Let's not hijack this thread. The thread is about a wife who shot her OFFICER husband. It has nothing to do with enlisted men. It certainly is not the fault of an enlisted man. And it damn well didn't happen just because an enlisted man was allowed to marry or to live on base. Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, regardless of rank deserve to be treated with respect. Regardless of rank they deserve to have the rules applied equally and fairly.
20 posted on 08/01/2002 2:11:31 AM PDT by NerdDad
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