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To: OPS4
FLEISCHER: Lester, I'm not aware of any of these reports, and these matters are handled by the investigators. WND: I'd be glad to send you statements on that, if you would take that question and get back to me, Ari. FLEISCHER: I'm sure you will.

Tell me the truth, Freepers...

When GWB won and got Ashcroft passed as AG, did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?

3 posted on 07/31/2002 11:13:49 AM PDT by berned
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To: berned
When GWB won and got Ashcroft passed as AG, did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?

Nope...what I expected was that all the evil chickens that had been cultivated for the previous eight years would come home to roost.

They DID.. and thank God we have someone of integrity at the helm.

7 posted on 07/31/2002 11:18:43 AM PDT by evad
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To: berned
" Tell me the truth, Freepers... When GWB won and got Ashcroft passed as AG, did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue"

Nice question… BTW, How often do you beat your wife?

Bush said that he'd be "a uniter, not a divider." I presumed that it was just campaign BS. But you and I can't say we weren't warned.

8 posted on 07/31/2002 11:21:21 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: berned
You are just opening your eyes to the fact that there really is NOT any difference in this "Two-Party Cartel". I have said so for years & every day I am proved correct. ONLY when we take back this country -probably other than a fake ballot box - by at the least voting EVERONE out who is in this fiefdom will we ever get any change. I believe you will see less people voting & a change with more illegal dems voting that GW does not look too good for the next election. But who knows, soon ballots will be computerized & then we have lost all control of candidates.
9 posted on 07/31/2002 11:27:56 AM PDT by Digger
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To: berned
I expected this to be a house cleaning [or fumigating] administration, and a much needed one at that. No way did I expect business as usual with regard to coverups, etc. How about answering the question, Ari?
10 posted on 07/31/2002 11:27:58 AM PDT by the crow
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To: berned
>>...did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?...<<

Yes. But I voted for him anyway.

You see, they are ALL members of the same "fraternity".

38 posted on 07/31/2002 12:53:39 PM PDT by FReepaholic
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To: berned
Don't forget, Bush Jr., like Beezlebubba, Hitlery and Bore, is also one who came of age during the 1960s. You can take the boy out of the "flower power" but you can't take the "flower power" out of the boy. The way I see it, it will take another 10 years (if we survive) before things really start to change as the 1980s college classes who voted for Ronald Reagan in droves and were a truly clean cut bunch, take over and start to clean out the rat infested darkness created by the failed Baby Boomer subculture.
39 posted on 07/31/2002 12:55:14 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: berned
I knew that Bush wouldn't do anything about the boatloads of Chinese campaign cash, stolen nuclear missile technology, Oklahoma City, when he insisted on "moving on" right after the election.

And I suppose that they'll tell us to "just move on" when Chinese missiles hit American cities.

46 posted on 07/31/2002 1:45:11 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: berned
That is not the case so I am not surprised. Only lamebrained fools believed Bush would prosecute Clinton. There is no way he would be convicted by the people of this nation so why waste his capital going after a lost cause. He will do this as soon as he slays the first windmill.
47 posted on 07/31/2002 2:47:22 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: berned
did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?

You obviously are a news junky like myself but you don’t seem to pay attention to long standing practice of the political elite in our country and every other country I know of, namely:

Go along to get along

I don’t for a moment believe that James Traficant is going to jail for his crimes, but simply because he repeatedly and with malice violated the above unwritten (but sacred to politicians) rule (need I point out that Bob Toricelli is getting a pass for his obvious crimes, and I don’t for a moment believe it is because he is a Dimocrat. The nearly unanimous vote to eject Traficant should make that obvious.).

Bush was not likely to begin an in-depth investigation of the Clintoon Mafia simply because he would need an overwhelming majority in order to make any progress at all in any other political undertaking he might attempt in his tenure in office.

Any president in the recent past has had to have some nominal support in Congress from the other party in order to push forward his agenda. This means that the President and his administration must make some effort to avoid totally alienating the opposition party.

This is particularly true of the Republican Party because the major press organizations are obviously in the other camp.

Also if this investigation led to the finding of some great deeply in grained problems in the FBI/Justice Dept. this would require equally great reorganizations of these huge bureaucracies, which would lead to chaos. Congress would be preoccupied with these reorganizations and of course would make political hay while the sun shines.

So to put it succinctly the President can’t pursue the crimes of the preceding administration to the logical conclusions because to do so would be to risk permanently scuttle his own administration.

Yes I expected GWB to allow the corruption to continue. He simply has no other option. Unless we the voters can supply a President with an uncontested majority in the Congress we must expect thing to continue pretty much as they always have. It takes a revolution to make revolutionary changes.

48 posted on 07/31/2002 2:55:25 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: berned
When GWB won and got Ashcroft passed as AG, did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?

Sadly yes.

The intellegence community has the most influence over the bush family. This was inevitable.

56 posted on 08/12/2002 3:25:41 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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