Study: Women, Men Equally Violent With Partners-When Only Partner Is Violent, It's Usually The Woman

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[chance33_98]

Study: Women, Men Equally Violent With Partners
When Only Partner Is Violent, It's Usually The Woman
Posted: 4:18 p.m. EDT July 30, 2002

DURHAM, N.H.-- A study by the University of New Hampshire of college students says women are as violent as men toward their partners. The Family Research Laboratory study suggests that when only one partner is violent, it is twice as likely to be the woman.

The survey questioned 1,446 students from: the Universidad Autonoma de Ciudad in Juarez, Mexico; University of Texas at El Paso; Texas Tech; and UNH.

Study author Murray Straus says the findings suggest that programs and policies aimed at preventing intimate partner violence by some women are crucial.

Straus was offering details Tuesday in Montreal at the 15th World Meeting of the International Society for Research on Aggression.

But the findings were disputed by the director of Portsmouth, N.H.-based Sexual Assault Support Services.

The executive director says her first take, after reading this, is that it seems like an oversimplified response to a complex problem.

[glory]

I cannot hunt and I know many women who can't>>

Rubbish, this is a cultural thing, a sign of the times and luxuries Americans have. American women in the past broke the necks of chicken and pulled thier feathers off for dinner. Millions of women in other countries still do this. Your squeemishness is a product of your culture, not your gender.

As for hunting, I know plenty of WIVES of hunters who cut the kill up when it's brought home. The hunting drive is not in women, I'll give you that, but it's not because they are squeemish, it's just not in our nature to hunt. It IS in our nature to clean and cook the kills when they come home or to disable small animals ourself for dinner(like chickens, turkeys, etc--as I said, as recent as one generation back, this was still going on, probably still is in the hills of Appalachia)

[gilor]

inflict painful harm at my whim and follow up simply and easily with a clean kill.

DUDE! YOU ain't right. Maybe some 'couch time', huh?

[glory]

Men drive the reproduction of the species; women prevent the world from over population by putting on the breaks.

I'm not exactly sure that this is true either. I've seen plenty of sexually agressive women that get pretty "foreward" out there. >>

Not to mention Violette's assertion has no real validity in biology. Women are more agressive during ovulation or thier fertile times and are less likely to "put on the breaks" during this time. Violette is comparing apples to oranges here since a woman is only more likely to put on the breaks during her infertile times when her libido is much lower which is a wider window than the time her libido is high during ovulation. If you were to put a woman during ovulation and a man at his regular libido together, thier drive to reproduce would be very similar. This is embarrassing to share here, but I have experienced this first hand. My libido is much higher and I am much more agressive during that fertile time of month. I am much more likely to "forget" a few days before that I really wasn't ready for another baby. That's biology for you.

[glory]

Aww glasseye. I am female(and married). Read my posts to know we are not all like this. I'm sorry you were robbed by rabid feminists like Violette. It's sad to read stories of young women being turned from productive, lovely young ladies ready for work, love, family, and to serve God into victims looking over thier shoulder when any man approaches, ready to throw thier venom at anything male.

[glory]

AGREED!

[disclaimer]

It has actually been legal for centuries for men to beat women. The "rule of thumb" was established to let a man know how thick the rod should be that he used to beat his wife with.

The "Rule of Thumb for Wife-Beating" Hoax

You're way overdue for some feminist deprogramming.

[disclaimer]

I posted same argument as you (rule of thumb feminist propaganda) long after you did. Hard to believe women fall for that stuff.

[Conagher]

"Women will kill their children, we've seen evidence of this. Isn't it interesting though that they drown them when they do."

So, in other words, when women kill, they cause less pain, and that's better, in your opinion.

Sick.

[Conagher]

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[Conagher]

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[~EagleNebula~]

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[~EagleNebula~]

What I never understand is how people, of both sexes, will marry a violent person, knowing what they are like, and then expect some therapist, or judge, to clean up the mess.

It isn't always known prior to marriage. It often happens gradually, and increases to a more violent level. Let me put it like this>>

If you try to put a frog into a pot of boiling water, he will jump out. If, however, you put him in a pot of warm water and turn up the heat until it is boiling....he dies in it, never attempting to get out. Many marriages with abuse are like this frog. The spouse (male or female) gets into the relationship and doesn't know or realize. As time goes on, the severity of the abuse increases until there are some really good pictures for the police to take of someone badly beaten, or even dead.

In other cases, it is a person who has grown up in an abusive home, where it was acceptable behavior (or the abused spouse was to scared to leave) so that is all this person knows and views this as 'normal' behavior.

You make it sound like it is a calculated decision. It's not. It often does take both a therapist and judge to straighten it out, to some extent. The victim is often fearful, and has been not only physically but also verbally and emotionally abused, leaving them with low self-esteem, and self-worth. They often believe the abuser's words that they deserve the abuse and no one will ever love them. These things and many more keep them in the situation til the breaking point, and often bring them back into it.

Statistically, anyone leaving an abusive relationship returns to it and doesn't make that final break until the 7th attempt. If they live that long! (Some are strong enough in character they can leave and make that break permanently in less attempts and live to tell about it.)

[~EagleNebula~]

A woman's success is going to be based on the support she receives from the people around her. Agreed! That coupled with her strength of will and character. Often there is no one there to support them.

Praise the Lord you were able to get your situation taken care of! I am proud of you for standing up and not taking it. Are your friends still free?

[Paul Atreides]

Sometimes, it is a calculated decision. Look, what I am talking about are the people who knowingly go after the bad boy/bad girl. It is like knowingly dating a drug dealer and then expressing some sort of shock that the person continued to sell drugs after marriage. I know there are deceitful people. I know there are manipulative people. I know all that. What I am talking about are the people, of BOTH sexes, who will hook up with a person they KNOW to be bad news, and then will express shock over the person's behavior. I have heard of a lot of marriages, long marriages, in which one partner was done dirty, and I mean DIRTY. And, it surfaced in the last year or two of marriage. Sometimes, it developed over a period of years and escalated. Then, there are the people who will hook up with someone who is NOTORIOUS for being abusive and bad news. That, is to whom I was referring.

[~EagleNebula~]

A bigger issue is that women commit most of the domestic violence against children.

Don't you think that would be true because the majority of caretakers of the children are female? How many stay-at-home dads are there? I don't think it would be the same if the number of male caretakers were equal to that of females.

By the way, what are you basing that statement on? A study? Where are you getting it?

[~EagleNebula~]

Thank you for the clarification! Forgive me if you have so stated later in the thread....this time of night I am a slow reader!

[trussell]

Then, there are the people who will hook up with someone who is NOTORIOUS for being abusive and bad news.

Unfortunately, you are right. There are people who seek out and stay involved with the Bad Boy/Girl persona.

Most often, this is because they were brought up in a home where violence against the female was accepted as "normal", and to be expected.

I was brought up with an abusive stepdad. He was very physical with his abuse, but he was also verbal. He told me several times that I wouldn't amount to anything, and that I would never deserve anyone who would amount to beans.

After hearing the same thing over and over, programming takes over and you begin to believe it. At the time you begin to believe these statements, you feel the only way you will not be lonely, is to be involved with an abuser. (Because you dont deserve better than that).

I was involved with an abuser. He stole my children. I have since decided I will not become involved with anyone until my children are old enough to be on thier own. That way they will not be hurt by anyone I might choose. I also pray that I will not make the same mistakes.

By the way, I do not support abuse by any person on another, whether it be male or female. The only exception would be to preserve your life from someone who is in the act of hurting (or trying to hurt) you or your children.

[RobRoy]

>>inflict painful harm at my whim and follow up simply and easily with a clean kill.

DUDE! YOU ain't right. Maybe some 'couch time', huh? <<

Sorry, I should have been specific. In my case as with most men, the above is PHYSICALLY possible., but not emotionally, morally or mentally possible.

I'm just saying that if under the right mental, emotional and moral conditions, most men could easily do it while most women, armed only with their bare hands, would be the equivalent of banging their fists against a large tree while their husband says, "Isn't she the cutest thing?"

[RobRoy]

>>Statistically, anyone leaving an abusive relationship returns to it and doesn't make that final break until the 7th attempt. If they live that long!<<

Unless, of course the "abusive" person they are leaving is, in fact, NOT abusive. Then it usually takes only one attempt.

Go figure...

[mafree]

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