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To: yendu bwam
But the Catholic mess makes it clear that a sizeable percentage of homosexual men have a strong sexual attraction to teenage boys.

By the same logic, heterosexual men, making up a minority of the population and accounting for a large majority of sexual offenses against women, should be excluded as leaders in the Girls' Clubs. You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

12 posted on 07/30/2002 8:18:10 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
Is there such a thing as "Girls' Clubs"? I thought they were called Boys & Girls Clubs.
13 posted on 07/30/2002 8:24:11 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: MurryMom
By the same logic, heterosexual men, making up a minority of the population and accounting for a large majority of sexual offenses against women, should be excluded as leaders in the Girls' Clubs. You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

Well, I will be please to answer that. I can certainly tell you that in an organization like the Boy Scouts, where kids go out camping on overnight trips with male leaders in the absence of parents, it would be CRAZY to have homosexual leaders. In the same way, the vast, vast majority of parents would not send out their teenage daughters with heterosexual men on overnight camping trips (maybe you would - the vast majority would not). In Big Brothers / Big Sisters, you have adults with sole access and supervision over these kids, in the absence of parents or other adults. A Big Brother can say anthing to his charge, model any behavior to his charge, or even try bad stuff, if he wants. BBBS is really stupid to allow this, as it will certainly lead to some homosexual molestations. The Boy Scouts suffered from a rash of homosxual molestations until it cracked down and established a kids' first policy protecting them from homosexual molestation. In the Catholic Church, we now have literally thousands of homosexual molestations against teenage boys (homosexual priests allowed one-on-one unsupervised supervision of teenage boys). Now, on the question of role models. I can certainly tell you, the vast, vast majority of parents don't want their sons going around town with a guy who says things like: "Wow, I like the way that guy's butt looks!" or "Gee, I'd love to go out with that man. He's so cute." Maybe you want that for your son. Most people don't. (And they're right to not want that!) Would you want your son going to the beach with a BBBS homosexual guy and changing in the bathhouse together? I sure wouldn't. (And I wouldn't allow my teenage daughter to put on her bathing suit in the presence of a heterosexual guy. Would you?) And finally, on your point, I don't know exactly what you mean by Girls' Clubs. I really don't think it's wise to have girls wholly supervised by a couple of heterosexual guys. I would really have to know the exact circumstances to know what I would think and allow for my daughter. But I think your problem is that you've lost your ability of discernment. These situations are not all the same. Big Brothers is talking about sole access of a homosexual man with a boy in the absence of any supervision. It's bad news. Boy Scouts puts kids and parents first. BBBS does not.

20 posted on 07/30/2002 10:09:15 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: MurryMom
Finally MurryMom, I would say to you that if the Catholic Church did not allow homosexual priests sole access to teenage boys, there would not have been a horrific scandal. Thousands of lives ruined, because the feelings of homosexuals were put higher in priority than the safety of children.
21 posted on 07/30/2002 10:11:21 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: MurryMom
You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

You think that you are being contentious but conservatives do tend to be consistent in our views. No. Men should not be Girl Scout Leaders. And neither should lesbians. There are two many coming out stories that start with a young girl being "brought out" by her leader at a campout. I suppose to a liberal those are heartwarming tales.

23 posted on 07/30/2002 10:48:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MurryMom
Girls' Clubs AND Girl Scouts. No men.
24 posted on 07/30/2002 10:49:49 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MurryMom
"You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you? "

Actually I do agree. It may be the first time I have agreed with any of the liberal twaddle you regurgitate during one of your infrequent visits. I would not agree, however, that you would be a fit candidate to lead a group of girls. Your credentials are suspect to say the least.

32 posted on 08/01/2002 5:53:32 AM PDT by Movemout
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