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American WWII Prison Camp Survivors Sue U.S. Gov't
Reuters / ABC ^

Posted on 07/29/2002 2:20:09 PM PDT by RCW2001

July 29

— CHICAGO (Reuters) - A group of American survivors of brutal World War II Japanese prison camps in the Philippines filed a lawsuit in federal court Monday accusing the U.S. government of intentionally sacrificing them in 1941 to give the United States justification to enter the war.

The lawsuit on behalf of 598 plaintiffs, including survivors of Japanese prison camps and their descendants, demands unspecified compensation from the government, according to Northwestern University law professor Anthony D'Amato, a lawyer for the plaintiffs.

D'Amato said he believes he can get around a statute of limitations on such old claims because relevant documents only recently have surfaced.

There was no immediate comment on the lawsuit by the U.S. government.

Filed in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington, the lawsuit asks for the release of transcripts of conversations between President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in which they may have discussed America's strategy for entering the war. Roosevelt's successor, Harry Truman, sealed the transcripts in perpetuity.

D'Amato said he believes Roosevelt and Churchill together agreed to raise obstacles to their citizens wanting to leave the Philippines, such as holding on to their passports, to leave them in the path of the invading Japanese.

At first, the Americans were there in order to deter a Japanese invasion, but they later were stranded as "bait," D'Amato said.

Meanwhile, many other Americans were being withdrawn from around East Asia in anticipation of a Japanese attack, he said.

"I speculate about what went on in those (Roosevelt-Churchill) conversations, but the defendant is hiding all this material," D'Amato said. "I would like it stipulated, unless the government refutes it, that the presumption is true."

Just eight hours after the Japanese launched the surprise Dec. 7, 1941, attack on the U.S. fleet anchored in Hawaii's Pearl Harbor, an armada of U.S. planes was destroyed on the ground at a Filipino base.

As many as 12,000 Americans living in the Philippines subsequently were rounded up by the Japanese, many spending the war in brutal Japanese prison camps where starvation and disease claimed many lives.

D'Amato said the genesis of the suit was a contact he received from American camp survivor Marcia Fee Achenbach, who was 4 years old when her prison camp was liberated by American soldiers.

He said Achenbach, now a plaintiff in the case, has dug up documentation that the U.S. government issued orders not to issue passports to American citizens, and that a ban preventing citizens without passports from re-entering the United States was lifted only late in 1941.


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1 posted on 07/29/2002 2:20:09 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
hmmmm.... interesting choice.

Believe FDR was a traitor

or
believe those who were imprisoned
or

2 posted on 07/29/2002 2:23:53 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: RCW2001
As much as I have a distaste for FDR, I believe this is Barbara Streisand

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3 posted on 07/29/2002 2:29:16 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: RCW2001
GOOFY!
4 posted on 07/29/2002 2:36:14 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: A. Morgan
There is no honor among thieves. This is just sad. What about the firebombing that took place during that war? Is that somehow cruel and unusual now because we know it occured knowingly? What about the torment Churchill went through when he couldn't take a certain action that would have saved lives because it would have belied the breaking of the German Enigma codes? This is just sad.
5 posted on 07/29/2002 2:42:46 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: A. Morgan
There is no honor among thieves. This is just sad. What about the firebombing that took place during that war? Is that somehow cruel and unusual now because we know it occured knowingly? What about the torment Churchill went through when he couldn't take a certain action that would have saved lives because it would have belied the breaking of the German Enigma codes? This is just sad.
6 posted on 07/29/2002 2:43:05 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: RCW2001
Hooey!

War IS Hell.
7 posted on 07/29/2002 2:45:05 PM PDT by jbstrick
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To: RCW2001
I guess that not all of the "greatest generation" were really that great after all....gimme..gimme...gimme
8 posted on 07/29/2002 2:48:45 PM PDT by freeper12
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To: freeper12
I guess that not all of the "greatest generation" were really that great after all....gimme..gimme...gimme

I don't know that you can include this plaintiff with the "greatest generation" - she was only 4 years old in 1945.

D'Amato said the genesis of the suit was a contact he received from American camp survivor Marcia Fee Achenbach, who was 4 years old when her prison camp was liberated by American soldiers. He said Achenbach, now a plaintiff in the case,

9 posted on 07/29/2002 3:12:14 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: thegreatbeast
Hold on. If the claims are true, then the government should be held responsible. If they deliberately prevented these people from leaving the islands for the sole purpose of making political hay against the Japanese, as far as I'm concerned, it amounts to war crimes and ought to be punished.

A bit about the Enigma code, though; the Germans thought the code was unbreakable, and with good reason--it was (is) unbreakable. The sheer volume of different possibilites that exist with each encoded message is something to the order of 150 million million million, and that's just on a standard 3 rotor machine. Multiply that number by 26 (for the additional rotor) on the U-Boats, and you have a number that is so astronomically high that it was, quite literally, impossible to break, especially given the 24 hour period they worked within, seeing as Enigma codes changed daily. To say that Churchill grapped with whether to "expose" that the British had broken the Enigma code is misleading; even if they had broken it, it would have changed the next day, and no doubt the Germans would have dismissed it as a unlikely coincidence. Although at many points the British were able to capture some "keys" to Enigma, with German plaintext next to the ciphered message, the Germans simply changed the weather report codes or what have you.

Although the British had become fairly adept in beating Enigma (mostly through German folly) the idea that Churchill grappled with this moral dilemma is somewhat misleading.
10 posted on 07/29/2002 3:17:56 PM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: RCW2001
Harry Truman, sealed the transcripts in perpetuity.

Ain't that nice in a republic where the government derives its powers from the people the government leaders can pull this BS
11 posted on 07/29/2002 3:25:45 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: IncPen
As much as I have a distaste for FDR, I believe this is Barbara Streisand

Then this doesn't bother you at all?

Roosevelt's successor, Harry Truman, sealed the transcripts in perpetuity.

13 posted on 07/29/2002 3:42:10 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
>>As much as I have a distaste for FDR, I believe this is Barbara Streisand<<

Then this doesn't bother you at all?

Roosevelt's successor, Harry Truman, sealed the transcripts in perpetuity.

It bothers me that this thing is being foisted on us by a Trial Liar.

Suppose they go to trial (or even discovery) and there's nothing to this. Then who pays?

If there is something to this, then what? What could compensate these people or their (shades of reparations) descendants, how much would it take?

Frankly, I'm more concerned about the sealed evidence in the Clinton impeachment.

14 posted on 07/29/2002 4:08:59 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: RCW2001
Just eight hours after the Japanese launched the surprise Dec. 7, 1941, attack on the U.S. fleet anchored in Hawaii's Pearl Harbor, an armada of U.S. planes was destroyed on the ground at a Filipino base.

Generally (especially initially) the people obsessed with Roosevelt-as-Antichrist conspiracy theories knowing about Pearl Harbor but not telling anyone and whatnot were the same people who worshipped McArthur as a God.

Yet this was after McArthur was fully aware of the Pearl attack, and it was entirely his responsibility.

Regarding the initial story, they're suing the US and not Japan because they think they have a better chance of winning. But it makes absolutely no sense. Japan attacking the Phillipines, by itself, is plenty enough justification for war. And ironically, I've never heard, and in histories have read almost nothing, about US Civilians in the Phillipines being held captive by the Japanese. It seems clear to me that this was almost totally unused in US propaganda.

15 posted on 07/29/2002 4:51:28 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Viva Le Dissention
as far as I'm concerned, it amounts to war crimes and ought to be punished.

Really? And just who should be punished? And how?

The Reparations Railroad, that's what this is.

16 posted on 07/29/2002 4:55:43 PM PDT by Glenn
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To: IncPen
And people ask why we should follow Shakspers[sp] advice and kill all the lawyers. That may be a little extreme,maybe just 10 a day
17 posted on 07/29/2002 5:33:28 PM PDT by bybybill
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>>maybe just 10 a day


10 a day? we will never finish in time....
18 posted on 07/29/2002 5:58:28 PM PDT by freeper12
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To: John H K
A judicial mercy killing awaits this case, methinks.
19 posted on 07/29/2002 9:09:37 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: John H K
Read Bergamini's "Japan's Imperial Conspiracy". He was, as a child, held captive by the Japanese in Manila and barely escaped the infamous and well documented massacare in 1945.
20 posted on 07/30/2002 3:07:12 AM PDT by RocketWolf
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