[Frank_Discussion]

Yes, they've been pioneers at a number of things. And that's all very well and good, but consider the moon race: They were the first out of the gate there, too, and see where it got them. I'm not trying to be overly-critical, on the contrary, I applaud them for investigating the fringe. It's healthy.

It is also smart that we "include" them in our own research and development of such stuff, as we take the ball and run with it.

[philosofy123]

You are correct, the Russians have a great theoritical academia, but little money to invest in R&D.