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To: maestro
Thanx. I'm starting to see some parallels between the Traficant and the Demjanjuk cases. There are a lot of similarities. BTW, neither of these men are total angels but then neither of them, I believe, are guilty of the most serious crimes of which they are accused. We already know that the federal government railroaded Demjanjuk. The Israeli Supreme Court to its credit admitted that there was lack of evidence to show that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Much of the evidence that could have proven that Demjanjuk wasn't Ivan the Terrible was withheld by the U.S. Justice Department.

So did Demjanjuk work for the Germans? Probably, but not as some dedicated Nazi. What is little understood is that many folks in Occupied Europe were employed by the Germans as either slave or paid laborers. Thousands of Frenchmen were hired by the Germans to build the Atlantic Wall. Does this mean they were Nazi collaborators? Certainly some were but most were just out to make a living and survive the war. I think Demjanjuk fell into this latter category. (BTW, former French Socialist Prime Minister, Mitterand, was a very willing collaborator in the Vichy Government for the Germans). I am pretty good at detecting who enthusiastic collaborators were and who were just shmoes trying to survive the War and, to me, Demjanjuk was in the latter category. Many neo-Nazi sites take up the cause of Demjanjuk but this came about because of the STUPIDITY of the Justice Department trying to frame him as Ivan the Terrible, when the fact is he was just a low level worker whose "crimes" amounted to much less that the former Prime Minister of France (Mitterand), who worked for the Germans at a much higher level.

Anyway, the Demjanjuk case proves that the Justice Department does have a history of FRAMING people and ironically one of the few who stood up for Demjanjuk was Traficant. Most likely the worst that Traficant is guilty of is having some of his staffers, while visiting him on the farm, help out in a friendly way with pitching hay or some other minor activity that the Feds converted into some major crime.

65 posted on 07/29/2002 2:14:21 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
French Socialist Prime Minister, Mitterand, was a very willing collaborator in the Vichy Government for the Germans

Arent you aware that some of our allies in WWII were members of the Vichy French government? We didnt like De Gaulle and forced him to form war governments with at least two separate vichy leaders during the war.

98 posted on 07/29/2002 9:05:54 PM PDT by Dave S
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