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To: exodus
By your logic, the government-ordered murder of the Branch Davidians was okay, because the government was declared (by the government) to be innocent of wrongdoing.

Yes, anyone with half a brain knows the government didnt order any such thing. The Branch Davidians lit the fire so they go out in their blaze of glory, kind of like Islamic terrorists would in a similar situation.

53 posted on 07/29/2002 11:04:29 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
By your logic, the government-ordered murder of the Branch Davidians was okay, because the government was declared (by the government) to be innocent of wrongdoing.
- exodus
Yes, anyone with half a brain knows the government didn’t order any such thing. The Branch Davidians lit the fire so they go out in their blaze of glory, kind of like Islamic terrorists would in a similar situation.
# 53 by Dave S

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Boy, that’s a relief, Dave S.
I don’t have to worry about that anymore.

Tell me, was the government equally blameless of the Ruby Ridge murders? Was the FBI innocent of doctoring the evidence against the four Boston men falsely convicted of murder, and then imprisoned for 30 years? Were the Chinese donations to our government just an innocent little misunderstanding? Was Bill Clinton vilified just because he had an affair? Is organizing citizens to spy upon their neighbors just an extension of the American dream?

Sorry, I don’t buy your excuses, Dave S. The government massacre of the Davidians was planned well in advance. They even lied and said that the Davidians were selling drugs, in order to justify bringing in the military.

Arresting David Koresh was not the purpose of the raid. Illegal weapons were not the purpose of the raid. Child abuse was not the reason for the raid, and neither were drugs.

The purpose of the raid on the Davidians was the BAFT needed or wanted more funding. It was called "Operation Showtime" and they called out the TV News to be sure that the attack would be televised. It was a publicity stunt, and a publicity stunt must be dramatic to work it's magic.

Telling David Koresh "You're under arrest" just wouldn't be dramatic enough if Koresh responded with "Okay, I'm ready to go."

Our government went to Waco intending to commit murder. Murder is what they did.

I won’t forget that, and I don’t forgive them.

73 posted on 07/29/2002 4:13:45 PM PDT by exodus
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To: Dave S
. The Branch Davidians lit the fire so they go out in their blaze of glory, kind of like Islamic terrorists would in a similar situation.

Maybe so, but I wonder about one of the audios I heard.

There were voices that were never identified. One said, "Where's the fuel? I know they have fuel here!"

89 posted on 07/29/2002 7:52:30 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Dave S
The government used Alabama National Guard and hardware during the siege at Waco. Is that legal? I'm not the one to take everything the government says as gospel. Take a look around at some of the bizzare things being proposed re: Patriot Act and TIPS.
93 posted on 07/29/2002 8:17:43 PM PDT by bok
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To: Dave S
i didn't read all the way down the thread to see if anyone has called you on this or not, but regarding Waco,

OUR OWN GOVERNMENT USED, AGAINST OUR OWN CITIZENS, TOXIC GASSES THAT ARE NOT LEGAL TO USE IN WARFARE WITH ANOTHER NATION.

I will repeat that. We used, against our own citizens, toxic gasses that are illegal to use against other nations in warfare.

that is a fact, and you can do a minimal amount of research to back that up.

118 posted on 07/30/2002 9:29:28 AM PDT by Benson_Carter
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