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Is protectionism America's future? Pat Buchanan praises Bush's barriers
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, July 29, 2002 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 07/28/2002 11:50:51 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 07/28/2002 11:50:51 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 07/28/2002 11:51:21 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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3 posted on 07/28/2002 11:56:30 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; ..
Pat Buchanan praises Bush's barriers

What a fun "strange bedfellows" thread this will be!




4 posted on 07/28/2002 11:56:52 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
hehehe
5 posted on 07/28/2002 11:57:51 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Pat's nuts, we could easily slip into a 1930's scenario ( Smoot-Hawley didn't work then and protectionism is NOT going to work now! ) and what Pat knows / understands about economics, couldn't fill a thimble. No less a leading light, of economics and political knowledge, than Thomas Sowell, did an entire column, last week, about this. Frankly, when push comes to shove, I'll talk Thomas Sowell's expertise, over Pat's, any day and twice on Sundays !
6 posted on 07/28/2002 11:59:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JohnHuang2
A comeback for protectionism?

Stephen Moore

     One of the contributing factors to the market meltdown is the bearish policy environment in Washington — which is not reassuring investors, but chasing them out of the market. The rise of protectionism is a dramatic case in point. For the first time in two decades the free trade movement is in retreat. And it has been put in this position by an American president who keenly understands and eloquently articulates the virtues of free trade.
     One would like to believe that if George W. Bush knew three months ago what he knows today, he would never have foolishly agreed to impose 30 percent steel tariffs. By doing so, he has put at risk the fragile majority in the U.S. Congress for further trade liberalization. As one union official told the American Prospect magazine, "The Senate was put in play [on trade issues] by the steel deal. When Bush put tariffs on steel imports to help him in Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania, the free-trade Democrats began to wonder, 'Are we the last believers in free trade?' " Not surprisingly, in the House and Senate votes for free trade are disappearing in the wake of Mr. Bush's politicization of free trade.
     The disgraceful $200 billion farm bill was an equally devastating setback for the free-trade movement. By signing a bill that massively raises U.S. government farm support subsidies, Mr. Bush has severely weakened his ability to cajole European and Japanese governments to lower their own trade restrictions and subsidies. Under the new farm bill, as much as 30 to 40 cents out of every dollar farmers earn will come from Uncle Sam.
     As the Economist magazine correctly noted in critiquing the U.S. farm bill: "The Europeans, notoriously protective of their own agricultural interests, are likely to grab any excuse to avoid reforms that might hurt their politically powerful farmers." Now they have one. Meanwhile, retaliatory steel quotas are in the works in Japan and Europe as well. The U.S. has temporarily surrendered the moral high ground on the movement to allow tax-free global commerce, and it could take years to regain the ground that has been lost.
     Mr. Bush's faltering on free trade couldn't come at a worse time. The global trading system is under assault. As the chart below shows, last year, the volume of world trade declined for the first time in two decades.
     Part of this was due to depressed demand resulting from the global recession. But a much more malignant factor is at play here: the re-emergence of protectionist trade barriers around the world.
     The rise in worldwide tariffs, quotas and government subsidies to domestic industries is arguably the most dangerous new development in the global economy. It has been the expansion of free trade and the chopping of tariff barriers over the past quarter-century that has helped propel the dramatic rise in living standards and wealth creation in the U.S. and much of the rest of the world. Nations that have entered the global trading marketplace have exploited the magical force of Adam Smith's comparative advantage to increase growth and wages by producing what they produce best.
     This chiseling away at trade restraints drove down worldwide costs and prices of everything from bananas to vaccines, to microchips to potato chips. As a result, products that once were only available to kings and princes and multimillionaires became affordable to even the poorest Americans and to the middle classes of most other nations. When it comes to advancing worldwide consumer sovereignty, nothing works like free trade.
     By politicizing free trade, President Bush has put the world economy at risk. The 20th century should have taught us the potentially catastrophic consequences of the breakdown of world trade and the rise of protectionism. The global trading system shut down in the 1930s as many nations, including the U.S., doubled and even tripled tariffs and import quotas. In the U.S., import duties rose to about 50 percent of import prices by the late 1930s. The result was a global depression and a plunging of living standards here and abroad.
     For the first time in more than two decades, trade barriers are moving in the wrong direction. This isn't the 1930s by any stretch of the imagination, but Pat Buchanan is one happy camper these days. This bad news arrives just at a time when the wobbling world economy is most in need of a shot in the arm.
     My colleague at the Cato Institute, Brink Lindsey, who has just published a terrific book called "Against the Dead Hand," says the Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) legislation that Mr. Bush seeks and was just passed out of the Senate, is so weighed down with environmental and labor side deals (the Democrats want free health benefits for laid-off workers), that it may be worse than no deal at all. In the House, where TPA passed by one vote several months ago, support for the free trade agreement is now in a full meltdown. Alas, this is the inevitable price to be paid when the president puts politics over principle on free trade.
      The good news is there is still time for Mr. Bush to re-establish his free-trade credentials. In 1982, Ronald Reagan bowed to electoral politics and agreed to slap auto import quotas on Japan. This solitary sin didn't prevent Mr. Reagan from becoming the most important political leader for free trade in the last half-century. George W. Bush is similarly an instinctively committed free trader in his gut. He has to start following his gut and stop listening to half-witted political advisers who keep telling him that free trade is an electoral loser. It isn't. The last four U.S. presidents were elected on a free-trade platform. That includes, of courses, George W. Bush. It's time for his actions to support his free trade rhetoric — before the world trading system begins to crater.
     
      Stephen Moore is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute.
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7 posted on 07/29/2002 12:05:40 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Scorpio
I remember how the 'free traders' threw a conniption fit when President Reagan imposed import restrictions on Japanese bikes to save Harley-Davidson. And it did.

It was the right thing then, it's the right thing now.

9 posted on 07/29/2002 12:19:02 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Socialism by any other name is still socialism,

Forcing out foreign producers for the purpose of defending uncompetitive and poorly run unionized industries is the furthering of the socialist agenda

Trade barriers for the purpose of fighting capitalist competition are socialist by their very nature and anyone who supports them is a bleeding red socialist

10 posted on 07/29/2002 12:19:07 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector
It's not that easy. What do we do when bleeding red socialist countries subsidize their own steel manufacturers, who then dump their steel on our market, forcing our (arguably) "freer" producers out of business?
11 posted on 07/29/2002 12:29:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ContentiousObjector; glc1173@aol.com
Take care of your USA family first.
12 posted on 07/29/2002 12:31:14 AM PDT by doglot
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To: Sabertooth
You are a rabble-rouser. LOL. It just proves a point I have tried to make. Every action Bush has taken has pissed off one segment of "base". That tells me that he has no "base". He has a cluster of icebergs the he is has to jump from one to the other just to keep afloat. It says a lot about the "conservative movement" and who gets to define it.
13 posted on 07/29/2002 12:33:32 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
See my post at #4. LOL
14 posted on 07/29/2002 12:36:00 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You made excellent points. However I am just mesmerized by the irony I see every night on this board.
15 posted on 07/29/2002 12:39:14 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Thank you ; however, EVERYONE has totally ignored my post. Perhaps it is just far and away to intelligent , factually true, and " easy " to ignore. LOL

I am disgusted and saddened, by so many of those very posts,that you speak of. :-(

16 posted on 07/29/2002 12:42:35 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I am disgusted and saddened, by so many of those very posts,that you speak of. :-(

When it comes to gored oxen never expect objectivity, reason or comity.. LOL

17 posted on 07/29/2002 12:45:23 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh ... how right you are ; yet again. LOL
18 posted on 07/29/2002 12:52:36 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
You are a rabble-rouser. LOL.

You realize then, what your prompt reply implies? (no taking the 5th!)

For the record, my own defnition of Bush's "base" is every living voter he got in 2000. Those are the votes he needed to win last time, and objectively, the most likely votes he'll get this time. I was one of the former, and stand a decent chance of also being one of the latter. I think the arguments over which of his 2000 votes are more "base" than some others are quite amusing.

On some of the protectionist and free market issues, I'm not hyper-doctrinaire. The steel tarrif is unfortunate, but doesn't bug me in principle, because I don't want to be in the position of being completely dependent on foreign sources of such a crucial commodity. In addition to the national security concerns, I'm also not in such a rush to plunge into a wholly post-industrial economy.

I don't like farm bills, though... they're nothing but vote-whoring.

Not that the steel tarrif won't play well in the Rust Belt, but at least we're not paying Sam Donaldson not to produce cylinder heads.




19 posted on 07/29/2002 12:54:12 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: nopardons
Pat likes protectionism because Textile billionaire Milliken gave he and Bey millions to push them.

The steel tariff is having some odd effects. China is hurt not by reduced shipments of steel to the USA but because other countries are dumping steel which would have cometo the USA in China (the PRC is wondering why they begged for 15 years to get into the WTO).

20 posted on 07/29/2002 1:02:50 AM PDT by LarryLied
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