[nopardons]

Oh gee, and Lincoln's getting rid of Habeus Corpus and a few other such things, don't count ? It's late, and you are just so damned fixated on your own POV, that you have disavowed all else. I can't bring you up to speed; as it would be an utter waste of bandwidth.

BTW, your silly : " All I can say to that is : that explains a lot " , doesn't 1) refute anything that I have stated. 2)is just a throw away line, and is irrelivant to this debate. 3) is such a pointless non secquitor, that it defies reason. 4) ruins the rest of your stap at refutation. LOL

Thomas Jefferson did NOT even ask for a Congressional Declaration of War, against the Barbary Pirates. That's just for starters, and to give you something to mull over. LOL There's SO very much more ... including things that George Washington did !

[Gelato]

Thomas Jefferson did NOT even ask for a Congressional Declaration of War, against the Barbary Pirates. That's just for starters, and to give you something to mull over. LOL There's SO very much more ... including things that George Washington did !

Actually, the pirate thing was the first time war had been declared against individuals, instead of a nation. That's why it's significant.