[Gelato]

And some of them, dear, thought that slavery was okay / a necessary evil / or PRAGMATICALLY gave in on that subject.

And you hold that up as an example that pragmatism is good? Doesn't make sense to me.

Incidentally, didn't you just refute your own assertion that pragmatism is necessary in politics? For, if our Forefathers had stuck to the principle they articulated the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal and our rights come from God, the mess of slavery would have ended sooner.

[nopardons]

No, dear, not at all. THIS NATION, WOULD NOT EXIST , IF THOSE AGAINST SLAVERY HAD HELD OUT ! You really DO need to learn American history. It's a pity , that you know , at best, the Cliff's Notes version of what actually happened back then. Your fairy tale view / version, of what American history and the presidents were , is so skewed, that you can't tell the difference between what political reality has always been, and what you whish it had been / is. That's WHY you are having such a difficult time .