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To: Gunrunner2
I didn't mean to suggest the aircraft encountered a "stall break", I stated he encountered an accelerated stall.

View the video, and it is clear the wing loading increased just before the (probable) uncommanded roll to the left.

I am very familiar with the stall characteristics of the Clark-Y airfiol. But I also have experience with the accelerated stall characteristics of a modified delta wing as in the A-4. Not state of the art as in this ruskie augernaught, but enough to demonstrate to me I didn't want to jack the thing around at low altitude without a lot of spare knots.
38 posted on 07/28/2002 5:51:54 PM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench
Excuse my implication you were inferring what most non-fighter type people would consider an accelerated stall. I was not trying to quibble, I was merely trying to explain why the on-set of a stall on a hi-performance fighter, A-4 included ;-), is not at all like the Cessna most people are familer with.

That said, the aircraft was rating the turn quite well and to me the nose rate did not seem to drop off or accelerate (perhaps you have better modem than I). So, unless he was in a "deep" stall, the ailerons would have been effective and he could have rolled out at any time. But, since we were never in the jet, we shall never really know what caused the mishap.

I, like you, know low altitude flying is a bear and not a place for errors or any kind, mechanical or otherwise. And as we both know, the best you can hope for is to equal the low fly record, not beat it.
40 posted on 07/28/2002 6:02:22 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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