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I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the menial farm and ranch jobs they fill. I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the motel maid and maintenance they fill, just to name a few.

But that's the point: Flood the country with illegal labor to drive down those salaries to the point that real Americans can't afford to earn a living at those occupations.

Heck, pay me enough money, and I'd quit my office job to shovel real manure.

And how many illegal immigrants did they pull out of that dirty and dangerous Pennsylvannia mineshaft yesterday?

I guess the unions keep salaries high enough to attract American mining workers.

In colonial times, they used slaves for such work, and I'm sure when anyone talked of abolition, the mine owners would protest they could not man the mines without slaves.

How right you are. If those employers that used cheap illegal labor had to pay SS and taxes on those employees not to mention their health care (which WE pay for via free handouts at emergency rooms and free clinics) they would be bankrupt. Thing is, they get the cheap labor, make a buck but the rest of us lose TWO bucks paying for these illegals care/food/anchorbabies/etc.

Heck, pay me enough money, and I'd quit my office job to shovel real manure.

Be my guest.

And how many illegal immigrants did they pull out of that dirty and dangerous Pennsylvannia mineshaft yesterday?

What does that have to do with ANYTHING?

I guess the unions keep salaries high enough to attract American mining workers.

And many industries dependent on union labor are in big trouble.