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Its not a matter of belief but rather a matter of fact , and the fact is that they are out there . Who is running the show is a whole different matter .

Myself and 3 of my fireteam saw the exact same thing on 2 consecutive nights and the aerocraft performed the exact same things in the sky .

I do not believe that they were US craft , but who knows . It was also interesting because it was nearly to the second on the hour on the same hill . Hill 722 on Oahu , 1980 . It was interesting .

I am in total agreement with you. People who glibly explain away each and every UFO sighting don't realize how silly they sound after the 42,497th glib shrug-off.

They remind me of clinton supporters who think it's perfectly reasonable that he fired the FBI director one day BEFORE Vince Foster "dies" then refuses to let the FBI investigate the crime scene. They see nothing fishy. They placidly accept the glib explanation that it's all just a buncha wacky ha-ha coincidences.

Now... care to venture who/what you think the UFO's really are, and what their agenda might be?