[Asmodeus]

FormerLurker to Swordmaker: The massive amount of fuel suddenly released by the loss of the left wing ignited and resulted in the massive fireball which had reportedly been observed by satellite to have occured between 5500-7500 feet. Recent calculations I've made lean towards an altitude of 6500 feet for this event, and I personally find that to be a closer estimate for the altitude of the aircraft than the 9100 feet altitude that you postulate."

Let's compare FormerLurker's present calculated MF altitude of 6500 feet with the following:

The timeline and location of the major events of the disaster was approximately as follows:

8:31:11 Intact and climbing 747 approaches 13,800 feet.

8:31:12 Initiating Event at 13,800 feet followed immediately by the commencement of the decapitation process.

8:31:43-8:31:47 Streak of light appears.

8:31:47 Explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.

8:31:55-8:31:57 Splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.
Source.

The huge size of the Massive Fireball explosion was calculated by another "shootdown" tinfoil hat years ago at approximately 2000 feet in diameter and, of course, witnesses Faret & Wendell have stated that the top of the MF smoke cloud was at 7700 feet.
Source.

[FormerLurker]

Again Asmodeus, you fail to correct your timeline to allow for the fact that the LATEST that TWA800 could have impacted the water was at 20:31:55, and more likely 3 or 4 seconds prior to that.

You ignore the evidence of WHEN the second fireball (also known as the MASSIVE FIREBALL) occured. We've shown that fireball to be the result of the left wing separating from the aircraft between 20:31:35 and 20:31:40, where the fuel escaping from that wing tank burst into a fireball.

You ALSO ignore the fact that there were TWO fireballs, the first of which occured shortly after the initiating event and the second occuring when the left wing detached from the aircraft.

Finally, you continue to ignore the question of exactly why your timeline differs from the sources that you provide as evidence, which upon examination also appear to be incorrect and impossible in certain respects.

[JohnFiorentino]

And the point of all this is......There was no TIME for a "zoom-CLIMB"

TIMELINE (Outline) with Comments

IE 20:31:12

MF 20:31:36

Splashdown 20:31:54

But NO turn to the RIGHT----A turn to the LEFT or North as evidenced by the debris field, and sooting patterns on right wing.

[FormerLurker]

The huge size of the Massive Fireball explosion was calculated by another "shootdown" tinfoil hat years ago at approximately 2000 feet in diameter and, of course, witnesses Faret & Wendell have stated that the top of the MF smoke cloud was at 7700 feet.

There you go again with your "tinfoil hat" diatribes. Do you really think name calling bolsters your stature here?

In any case, you obviously didn't read your own source too well. From your own link..

We would like to emphasize:
"We approached the black-gray smoke cloud on the west side. We were at 7700 feet and were at the top edge of the cloud. The cloud center was at 7500 feet. There were 2 small bumps atop it. There was no smoke or smoke trails above it. It was still lit up a little by the sun, clear above. We don’t why this has never been discussed in any scenarios.”

If the smoke cloud center is at 7500 feet and the top of the smoke cloud is 7700 feet, the diameter of the cloud is 200 feet, not 2000.

And of course TWA800 would have fallen out of the massive fireball as it was still travelling at a much higher velocity than the burning fuel which rapidly decelerated.

[FormerLurker]

Uh, I meant to say..

If the smoke cloud center is at 7500 feet and the top of the smoke cloud is 7700 feet, the diameter of the cloud is 200 400 feet, not 2000.

You see, when I make a mistake, I admit it and correct it, unlike somebody else we know all too well...