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To: Asmodeus
Your questions dramatize your abysmal ignorance of the subject.

Your FAILURE to answer any questions concerning your self-proclaimed expertise in interviewing witnesses and extensive 50 year background as an interviewer demonstrates that not only are those claims untrue and fictitious, but that you are nothing more than a bloviating ignoramus.

In addition to not answering any questions in respect to your "esteemed" background, you fail to respond to any questions related to your own statements concerning your "timeline". You also fail to respond to direct questions when asked if you understand a certain scientific fact presented to you.

For example, in post #634 you asked me "What was the approximate falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface?".

In post #636, I gave you an answer, and asked you if you understood the basic scientific facts behind the answer. You ignored that question, then claim and never answered YOUR question. I asked a similar question in post #641, which you of course have failed to answer as well. You are one mixed up dude Asmodeus.

Every "shootdown" tinfoil hat has been aflicted with that same ignorance.

If you consider me to be ignorant, while you present nothing more than your own opinion based on what little voices in your head tell you, then I think you have a rip in your tinfoil...

No bonafide expert witness report analyst has ever been or will ever be a TWA 800 "shootdown" tinfoil hat.

So these men are psychotic where you, who claim to be an "expert witness report analyst" with no explanation as to WHY you're an "expert witness report analyst", is to be believed?

Associated Retired Aviation Professionals
Post Office Box 90, Clements, Md 20524; USA
E-Mail: ARAP
Membership

Admiral Thomas Moorer USN/Ret
Admiral Moorer, is the former Chairman of the JointChief's of Staff and the most Senior Retired Military Officer in the Group

Brig. General Ben Partin, USAF/Ret
General Partin was instrumental in developing continious rod-missile systems.

CMDR. William S. Donaldson USN/Ret
Commander Donaldson is the former Officer-in-Charge of Carrier Battle Groups Air Traffic Control Center, an air crash investigator and the author of the Interim Report to Congress on TWA Flight 800

Captain Al Mundo TWA/Ret
Captain Mundo is a retired TWA Pilot

Captain Howard Mann TWA/Ret
Captain Mann is a former TWA Pilot, an air crash investigator, participating in four air crash investigations during his career and the most senior retired commercial pilot in the group.

Major Fred Meyer NYANG/Ret
Major Meyer is a decorated Vietnam Pilot and an eyewitness to the downing of TWA Flight 800.

Rear Admiral Mark Hill, USN/Ret
Admiral Hill, is the former Commanding Officer ofthe USS Independence and an Air Crash Investigator.

Cmdr. Bruce Valley, UNS/Ret
Cmdr. Valley is a retired Naval Aviator and currently President of GlobNet, Inc.

Dr. Gregory A. Harrison, P.E.
Dr. Harrison is a professional Fire Safety Enginneer with a Phd. in Safety Engineering. He has extensive experience in fire investigations, flammable liquids and explosions. Dr. Harrison is court qualified to testify on forensics in Md/VA/DC/NJ/PA/LA/TX and FLA.

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Expert - "A person with a high degree of skill in and knowledge of a certain subject"

ALL of those men listed above ARE experts in their respective fields, and are proud to present their credentials.

You, on the other hand Asmodeus, are an expert in nothing. You aren't even that good at ad hominiem attacks....

661 posted on 08/22/2002 9:02:27 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
"ALL of those men listed above ARE experts in their respective fields, and are proud to present their credentials."

What training and experience interviewing witnesses and analyzing witness reports do their "credentials" include? Come on, hotshot, pony up.

FYI most people who do have training and even extensive experience interviewing witnesses and analyzing witness reports are not bonafide experts on those subjects because they are not very good at it.

EXAMPLE: FBI field agents because their training and experience has been for the most part in conducting "302" witness interviews.

EXAMPLE: FBI "witness report" analysts because the field agents' interview summaries are not witness reports and do not document what the witnesses actually said, what the FBI agents said or what anyone else present said.

Because it's widely used by U.S. government investigative agencies including both the FBI and CIA, it's a virtual certainty that the "302" interview procedure played a major role in the often referred to "intelligence breakdown" prior to 9/11 and the inability of the government todate to track down the "anthrax mailer".

The Unprofessional & Unreliable "302" Interview Procedure

Bill Donaldson was such a whiz bank interviewer and witness report analyst that he didn't even notice that witness Meyer could not possibly have seen a missile shootdown of Flight 800 at 13,800 feet only 3-4 seconds before he saw the Massive Fireball explode in its falling wreckage at 5500-7500 feet.

FIRO's Tom Stalcup has a PhD in physics, making him an expert in that field, but he shares your abysmal ignorance on the subjects of interviewing witnesses and analyzing their reports as documented here. Note also that witness's later comment to a reporter.

The legendary genius about all subjects in his own mind, Ian Goddard dramatized his abysmal ignorance on the subjects of interviewing witnesses and analyzing their reports by declaring these witnesses to be his Star "missile witnesses" even though they saw only the Massive Fireball explosion and not only made it clear it took place below their own flight altitude of 8500 feet but also pointed out that the tinfoil hats shootdown allegations left 5000 feet unaccounted for.

Now, the readers have you presenting a mixture of factual allegations and math computations, which mixture you unilaterally decree to be proven fact. But Swordmaker doesn't appear to be in complete agreement with you, so if or when you two are able to agree, please then become "user friendly" for the readers and provide them with your complete sequential timeline in one neat package instead of being spread over multiple lengthy postings with those factual allegations and computations mixed in with the corrections you have thus far found it necessary to make.

The "Missile Witnesses" Myth
FBI Chief Metallurgist Blows Whistle On Kallstrom's Wild Goose Chase

666 posted on 08/22/2002 4:59:19 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: FormerLurker
"You aren't even that good at ad hominiem attacks".

I didn't create the term "tinfoil hat". It's applied all over the internet to conspiracy theorists.

Your postings #672 and #673 dramatized that you are indeed a bonafide expert at making "ad hominiem" attacks and those postings were probably far beyond anything ever seen on FreeRepublic.

702 posted on 08/23/2002 4:44:37 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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