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To: Asmodeus
The readers have now seen your huffnpuff attacks on the above timeline and The "Missile Witnesses" Myth. Please provide them with your timeline.

Er, you REALLY have a reading comprehension problem don't you. Are your glasses adequate to be reading from a computer screen? I HAVE given timeline calculations, which you obviously ignore as you can't refute what I wrote. Can you see the little numbers on the Islip radar returns. Those are TIMES.

And a person by the name of Isaac Newton came up with these really neat equations having to do with objects in motion. The field of study is called Physics, and by using those equations we can see what is possible and what isn't.

You're timeline is IMPOSSIBLE due to the Laws of Physics, courtesy of Sir Newton..

In fact, since you insist, I'll repost something that I've already posted on another thread...


8:31:43-8:31:47 Streak of light appears.
8:31:47 Explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.
8:31:55-8:31:57 Splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.

Asmodeus, I see you're posting your impossible timeline again. Let's just reiterate why it's impossible..

Let me repost a little something I've already posted, and we can see just how high TWA800 was at 20:31:43, 20:31:47, and 20:31:55.

We'll take a look at the radar returns from the Islip radar to see exactly where TWA800 was during this period.

Radar graphic from www.twa800.com

According to the radar returns, the last return of the main body of TWA800 before it hit the water was at 20:31:48:94. Considering an error of up to 4.69 seconds due to the period of the Isplip radar sweep, TWA800 hit the water between roughly 20:31:49 and 20:31:54.

Looking at the radar returns, it becomes obvious that TWA800 was in a ballistic fall with negligible horizontal component between at least 20:31:44 and up to the time it met it's demise in the ocean between 20:31:49 and 20:31:54. We can safely assume that TWA800 would have been in this ballistic fall at 20:31:43 as well by looking at the radar chart.

A simple physics calculation should tell us how high TWA800 was at the specified times if we look at the difference between those times and the time that TWA800 hit the water.

The relevent equation is;
d = (g * t2)/2, where;
d = distance in feet
g = acceleration due to gravity = 32 feet / s2
t = time in seconds

To find the approximate height of TWA800 at any given time during this ballistic fall, we first calculate the difference between that time and the last return on radar which occured at 20:31:49, and then the difference for 20:31:54, which is the latest time TWA800 could have hit the water..

For clarity, I'll call the action of TWA800 hitting the water as the terminal event (TE). Time t will be the difference between the specified time and the TE, and d will be the height of TWA800 at that specified time.

For 20:31:43:

t(TE 20:31:49) = (20:31:49 - 20:31:43) = 6 seconds
t(TE 20:31:54) = (20:31:54 - 20:31:43) = 11 seconds

d(20:31:43, TE 20:31:49) = (32 * 62)/2 = 576 feet,
d(20:31:43, TE 20:31:54) = (32 * 112)/2 = 1936 feet.

For 20:31:47:

t(TE 20:31:49) = (20:31:49 - 20:31:47) = 2 seconds
t(TE 20:31:54) = (20:31:54 - 20:31:47) = 7 seconds

d(20:31:47, TE 20:31:49) = (32 * 22)/2 = 256 feet,
d(20:31:47, TE 20:31:54) = (32 * 72)/2 = 784 feet.

For 20:31:55:

We don't have to calculate THAT, as we already know that the latest that TWA800 hit the water was at 20:31:54.

These calculations are NOT taking friction of the air into consideration, so if anything it would take LONGER for TWA800 to fall from a certain height. This would mean that the altitudes given are a HIGH estimate.

So, your claim that at 20:31:47 there was the "Explosion of Massive Fireball" at 5500-7500 feet, is clearly impossible, as TWA800 was at MOST between 256 and 784 feet above the water at 20:31:47.

Additionally, your claim that "Streak of light appears" between 20:31:43-20:31:47 is also dubious, as TWA800 was at an altitude of at most 576 to 1936 feet at 20:31:43. And it was going DOWN, not up or sideways...

606 posted on 08/19/2002 7:36:18 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Please simply post your complete timeline for the readers instead of repeating your huffnpuff.
613 posted on 08/19/2002 7:42:59 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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