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To: Inkie
Sorry, stud, you're wrong again... (small L) libertarians are no more this sort than small R republicans... you got the wrong group to scapegoat. Most of them are staunch Constitutionalists, who would require FedGov to live STRICTLY within the bounds of that wonderful old document. State governments would have to live within the bounds of the Bill of Rights and each and every state Constitution...

Find another scapegoat. You lose on this one... or better yet, start insisting that FedGov live within its proper bounds. Once we STOP all this gooberment-mandated bs and require folks to make their own choices AND LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES we will begin to have that moral society again that most of us dream of... for then it will be truly moral. By choice. The way it is now, there are no consequences for poor choices and tacky behaviour right up to the point where some d!ckhead does a BIGTIME no-no, then he's toast... If parents and churches were free to instill morality into kids as they were growing up, we'd all be better off. And we'd have far fewer tragedies such as the ones we have been hit with over the past weeks.
338 posted on 07/26/2002 8:53:51 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
That is fine when you are dealing with adults. When it comes to living with the consequences of your actions, if the consequences of, say, kiddie porn, are that some pervert rapes and murders children, then the innocent child is bearing the consequences of the kiddie porn producer/viewer. While I agree on the government sticking to the Constitution, this is one case where the Constitution is not specific. I am sure that in, say, The Federalist Papers, there is some kind of discussion about freedoms being limited to where they do not hurt others.

While you might say there is no proof that kiddie porn leads to other crimes, we are accumulating evidence. Every time there is one of these murders, we are finding the killer has enjoyed kiddie porn. Besides vicimizing children in the making of the porn, there appear to be other consequences, that is, people making their fantasies a reality.

I am NOT talking about porn depicting freely choosing adults, being viewed by adults. Surely, protecting of little children from being murdered -- as opposed to protecting them from a Big Mac or second-hand-smoke -- (the original topic of this thread is the murder of a six-year-old) has to be a priority.

361 posted on 07/27/2002 6:48:47 AM PDT by Inkie
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