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To: Britton J Wingfield
#1: I am not a nuke. I'm a Fire Controlman (CIWS Block 1b/Harpoon). I was disqualified from being a nuke for having too much common sense.

And your story? It's the military equivalent of an urban legend. It's been told, re-told, and has mutated over time to fit whatever circumstances. I've heard dozens of variations of it. It probably has a kernel of truth, somewhere way back in the mists of time. But still, allow me to trample on it--

#2: If you're dumb enough to fall asleep in a strange place, you may have to deal with some unintended consequences when you wake up. Gasp! Gee, it's not a good idea to fall asleep in the street (or any other strange place)? Whouda thunk it?

I've lived in Japan off and on for a number of years, and been to many other places besides. The rules are: walk the straight and narrow, obey the laws, be nice, spend your money like a good tourist, and nobody will get hurt. Cover your own ass, and no one else will get a shot at it.

#3: Never rely on the JAG for help about anything. Anyone who's ever needed legal help while in the military could have told 'Mr. X' that. JAG and A Few Good Men may have been a couple of good yarns, but that's all they were--fiction. A real JAG couldn't get you off on a parking ticket.

Lessons learned? A little common sense goes a long way. Go to your court-appointed classes. And don't fall asleep on the street in 'Guam.'

125 posted on 07/24/2002 7:54:29 PM PDT by Skwidd
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To: Skwidd
Urban legend? B.S.

It was a man I worked with on the USS Proteus in 1990, R-5 division. I saw the aftermath.

So someone falling asleep waiting for a ride deserves to be brutalized by government officials? Great attitude. Maybe you can join the BATF when you get out.

129 posted on 07/24/2002 10:09:55 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Skwidd
Wow dood, you are such a macho, manly, and probably very hairychested badass. I wish I could be as tough and macho as you.
141 posted on 07/27/2002 1:03:52 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Skwidd
Good post.

The law of unintended consequences can be a bear. The main reason jail is a destiny most people want to avoid is not because of the three squares a day, it's because of the people who inhabit it. "Deliverance" in a steel cage.

That being said, I do feel sympathy for the young man in question because the unintended consequences were so grave. But the point you make is really unassailable.

And the posters on this site who are claiming the victory is the young man's because he stands to make a lot of settlement money must not understand the difference between the life of a man whose memories are free of rape, and the life of a man whose memories are not. They are morons in the extreme.

144 posted on 07/27/2002 1:26:48 PM PDT by Aedammair
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